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sandensea

(21,635 posts)
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:10 PM May 2018

Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like this'

A survivor of clerical sexual abuse has said Pope Francis told him that God had made him gay and loved him, in arguably the most strikingly accepting comments about homosexuality to be uttered by the leader of the Roman Catholic church.

Juan Carlos Cruz, who spoke privately with the pope last week about the abuse he suffered at the hands of one of Chile’s most notorious paedophiles, said the issue of his sexuality had arisen because some of the Latin American country’s bishops had sought to depict him as a pervert as they accused him of lying about the abuse.

“He told me, ‘Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like this and loves you like this and I don’t care. The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are,’” Cruz told Spanish newspaper El País.

Now 87, Fernando Karadima, the man who abused Cruz, was found guilty of abuse by the Vatican in 2011.

At: https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/pope-francis-tells-gay-man-god-made-you-like-this/ar-AAxyXr3


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Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like this' (Original Post) sandensea May 2018 OP
Finally! cilla4progress May 2018 #1
christians will always quote Romans ch. 1 highmindedhavi May 2018 #2
And many a right-wing pastor no doubt will. sandensea May 2018 #3
Hold on. ryan_cats May 2018 #4
Exactly - there is always a qualifier Runningdawg May 2018 #5
and he still thinks you are going to hell if you are LGBTQ. LostOne4Ever May 2018 #6
I am very skeptical of this story. Odoreida May 2018 #7

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
4. Hold on.
Mon May 21, 2018, 08:22 PM
May 2018

Hold on here. I remember his last pronouncement was that gays could be forgiven but they must give up the sinful behavior.

Does this mean he is going to allow people in non traditional relationships to get communion or whataver else their church offers?

Is this sophistry in that if someone who is gay turns to god, god will lead them out of a sinful life and are then forgiven?

It is nice words but that won't stop people with mixed fiber garments preaching parts of Leviticus their bigotry believes in!

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
6. and he still thinks you are going to hell if you are LGBTQ.
Wed May 23, 2018, 12:59 AM
May 2018

This is just another "love the sinner, hate the sin" type of quote. Until the Pope takes back his words in the past AND actively pushes to change Church Doctrine on LGBTQ people this is just more spin doctoring from the PR Pope.

 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
7. I am very skeptical of this story.
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:53 PM
May 2018

For some reason, there has been a lot of liberal wishful thinking about this pope, and I can't imagine why.

Because he said he was for helping the poor?

No pope is our friend.

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