Looking for perspective

[Lotusflower70]

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So I was in another discussion group and the idea that there's no such thing as a lesbian came up. And that there's growing support for this idea. I started to do some additional reading and kept seeing the notion that a lesbian is a confused straight woman or she was traumatized by men or her sexuality is evolving. It got me thinking about what is the real motivation here. I was reading a male psychologist's writings about it and started to think about his possible bias. He tried to summarize it as these women turned from men because they only had experience with losers. I found it insulting and simplistic. I am a psychologist and a woman. One of my cousins and best friends is a lesbian. Is this concept another attempt at controlling women or trying to minimize something they don't understand? According to the article, the prevalence of lesbian and bisexual has increased, they use this to supposedly support the idea that it's trendy. The ignorance in that premise is ridiculous to me. I would be interested to hear other views on this.

[Croney]

1. Sounds about as nutty as something else I read recently,

about the myth of the female orgasm. By the time I stopped laughing, I was tired.

[Lotusflower70]

7. Lol

I read that too and laughed my head off. I was like seriously, I know my own body. Lord have mercy, there was so much ridiculousness in that article.

[yardwork]

2. It's an old and stupid idea.

This ludicrous argument seems to stem from a patriarchal view that no woman would ever prefer women to men as partners unless she'd had a traumatizing experience with men.

I'm an enthusiastic lesbian who is deeply in love with my wife. Our relationship is joyous on every level - emotional, sexual, spiritual, and intellectual.

Prior to recognizing that I'm a lesbian, I had happy relationships with wonderful, caring men. I am not a victim of sexual assault or male abuse.

I'm strongly attracted to women and have been all my life, although our heteronormative culture made it difficult for me to recognize myself - in a great many ways. I was confused and now I see.

Self-confident men have no problem with this. I cut the others out of my life.

There's a lot of b.s. on the Internet.

[Lotusflower70]

6. Good point

I think it's a revised version of the lesbians don't exist concept. It is definitely patriarchal in nature. It seems to be coming from men that are insecure and intimidated by strong and intelligent women. The fact that the woman is not sexually attracted to the man adds another component that he wants to shut down. I am glad you and your wife are happy. Love is a beautiful thing.

[RandomAccess]

3. Prevalence hasn't increased

just your understanding of the prevalence due to a somewhat more tolerant society allowing people to live their lives as who they really are.

Of course the idea is bogus.

[Lotusflower70]

5. That is kind of how I see it

I don't see the prevalence increasing, I see a more open society. Social media has been such a tool in this area. The article I was reading talked about prevalence. I thought that was a skewed viewpoint on the writer's part.

[vlyons]

4. "Lesbian" is a concept

A label that means different things to different women. My cousin is a lesbian and married legally to another woman. It's my observation (hopefully objective) that women, who identify as "lesbian," not only want same-sex relationships. But they also want mostly social interactions and friendships mainly with other women.

So if a woman self-identifies as "lesbian," no amount of male psychologists opinions is going to change her life preferences. Seems like a lot of prattle to me. Hope the lesbians on DU pay it no mind. Silly nonsense notions aren't even worth feeling insulted about.

[lambchopp59]

8. Likely ignorant perspective of someone who has none or few close LGBTQ family or friends

All my older siblings can easily attest I was born gay. Before I even had an inkling what it was from the cradle on, they observed how I ogled men vs. women. All practically laughed at my sheepish "coming out" to them, and told me what they'd observed all along.
I'd like them to give many of the idiots a piece of their mind who've attributed my orientation to everything from environmental factors to demonic possession
Every one of my older close relatives can attest with more factual insight than I can, that I was
"born this way".
Only LGBTQ's with severe self-esteem issues will likely deny the genetic predisposition: I know that I can't even think straight.