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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:38 PM Feb 2012

how did you feel about chris brown at the grammy's?

i was happy to read several articles that were critical of his presence and the complicity of the music industry in condoning domestic violence

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/celebritology/post/chris-brown-performs-at-grammys-evokes-strong-reactions-from-fans-and-critics/2012/02/13/gIQALfb2AR_blog.html

The Post’s Chris Richards wrote, “Brown hopped up and down a terraced stage like a pop-locking Q*bert, trying to dance his way to America’s forgiveness. He was arrested for assaulting his then-girlfriend Rihanna on the eve of the 2009 Grammys, but his acceptance speech after winning best R&B album included no act of contrition. When Chris Brown is getting more airtime than Whitney Houston, there’s a serious problem.”
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how did you feel about chris brown at the grammy's? (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 OP
I feel pissed off seeing him getting applause anywhere. polly7 Feb 2012 #1
You may be confusing Bobby and Chris Brown obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #17
I eschewed the program entirely. MADem Feb 2012 #2
Ditto, I love Downton Abbey. Great program last night. Can't wait til next week. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #3
I'll watch it a few more times during the week. MADem Feb 2012 #4
Where can you watch it over again? We only get it once on Sunday. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #11
If you have an iPad you can download the PBS iPad app justiceischeap Feb 2012 #12
No I don't. I'm lucky to have a laptop. LOL Well I did see where you can buy the series on southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #13
Can you watch video on your laptop? justiceischeap Feb 2012 #22
Oh that's right I can. Your soooooo smart. Thanks I will southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #27
I live in a PBS "cachement area" of sorts! MADem Feb 2012 #30
We only have 2 PBS stations I can get. One is out of Nashville and the other out of Cookevlle. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #31
I've watched the Christmas episode three times now... OKNancy Feb 2012 #32
This is the last one until next year right The empressof all Feb 2012 #37
yes, this upcoming Sunday will be the last one for now OKNancy Feb 2012 #38
Whitney was married to Bobby Brown, not Chris Brown.... Hollywood Hills Feb 2012 #5
i am talking about chris not bobby and yes, he should have to pay La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #7
Thanks, I got them confused. polly7 Feb 2012 #9
You know HH one difference here is that Chris attacked a person who was also a Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #10
Yes, he should obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #19
"I'm Not Okay with Chris Brown Performing at the Grammys and I'm Not Sure Why You Are"... Little Star Feb 2012 #6
I was going to post that same link. redqueen Feb 2012 #26
All I'm sayin' is..... Hollywood Hills Feb 2012 #8
I was very excited... justiceischeap Feb 2012 #14
I thought it was appalling obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #15
yup La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #18
Hi group! OKNancy Feb 2012 #16
Appalling reactions to Chris Brown's performance by young women obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #20
Ohhh, my. polly7 Feb 2012 #21
I think some of these are made up accounts justiceischeap Feb 2012 #23
I'm not sure if that makes me feel better or worse obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #24
The one I visited said there was no such user justiceischeap Feb 2012 #25
I hope you're right. redqueen Feb 2012 #28
The two I looked at were definitely swarmed with rage justiceischeap Feb 2012 #29
Wonder if Chris Brown's publicist hired someone to ginn those monstrosities up? MADem Feb 2012 #33
It doesn't make sense that they'd justiceischeap Feb 2012 #34
Well, it's pushback against the "Why is that girlfriend-beater allowed back in the public eye?" MADem Feb 2012 #35
Just wanted to update, this is now on CNN justiceischeap Feb 2012 #36

polly7

(20,582 posts)
1. I feel pissed off seeing him getting applause anywhere.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:43 PM
Feb 2012

Imo, Whitney's problems with anxiety may have / probably, began because of her time with him. These abusive *'s move on so easily ...... the victims carry the burden and try to escape it forever.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. I eschewed the program entirely.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:48 PM
Feb 2012

I watched Downton Abbey instead. It was a wonderful episode.

I don't think much of that Chris Brown--he's a jerk, and he should be shunned.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. I'll watch it a few more times during the week.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:56 PM
Feb 2012

We're like that--we can't help revisiting the good stuff! I end up memorizing some of the lines!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
12. If you have an iPad you can download the PBS iPad app
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:22 PM
Feb 2012

and watch the episodes on there (if I remember correctly).

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. I live in a PBS "cachement area" of sorts!
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:37 PM
Feb 2012

I can get four distinct PBS stations. They rerun it during the week, often. I can get it most every night save one, I think. They also slap it up "ON DEMAND" midweek or so--about the only thing that my overpriced cable company does well.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
31. We only have 2 PBS stations I can get. One is out of Nashville and the other out of Cookevlle.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 08:00 PM
Feb 2012

Both stations show it on the same night at the same time. Sat. we get Masterpiece of other shows. I always watch them. I wish american tv was that kind of quality tv. I even like BBC america. I know you can get some foreign european stations. But they cost extra. I already have starz and we just added HBO. But sunday nights are my favorite nights. But I went to the PBS website and saw that I can watch them there again. I'm happy.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
32. I've watched the Christmas episode three times now...
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 08:07 PM
Feb 2012

that is the one coming up next week. I'll watch it again Sunday!! You will like it.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
37. This is the last one until next year right
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:15 PM
Feb 2012

That's my one peeve with these series....Too long of a hiatus in between It drove me crazy with the Sopranos

Luckily Game of Thrones is coming back fairly soon....

I'm sad I need to wait so long for Downton Abbey.

Another good one to watch on PBS is Larkrise to Candleford. I don't know if it's on line...I haven't checked but I totally enjoyed it when it was on weekly. I think there may even be another season of that coming up

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
38. yes, this upcoming Sunday will be the last one for now
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:29 AM
Feb 2012

Next week on American Experience on PBS is the Clinton special. That should be interesting.

Hollywood Hills

(48 posts)
5. Whitney was married to Bobby Brown, not Chris Brown....
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:04 PM
Feb 2012

Does Chris Brown have to pay forever?? If that's the case, make them all pay....Mickey Rourke, Tommy Lee, Seal, Johnny Depp.......et al.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
7. i am talking about chris not bobby and yes, he should have to pay
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:09 PM
Feb 2012

for a long time. i am not literally saying he has to be in jail forever but there is a long way between jail and being honored at grammys

also the article is just merely saying chris brown should not get more time than whitney houston. is not about bobby.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
9. Thanks, I got them confused.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:20 PM
Feb 2012

My opinion still stands that mostly all get off much too easily. Unless they've participated in public-education programs / campaigns, etc., and shown some real understanding and remorse .... I'm not sure they shouldn't have to pay forever. Obviously, DV leaves many victims with a life-sentence.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. You know HH one difference here is that Chris attacked a person who was also a
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:32 PM
Feb 2012

performer slated to perform on a Grammy show who could not due to his attack. She is a Grammy winner. Apparently he gets to hit people, ruin shows, and all is fine due to what? What standard is the so called Academy showing? 'Our winners, punch them if you like'.
Plus man, we saw the photos. Not all of those people you mention did what he did, and you know it.

obamanut2012

(26,087 posts)
19. Yes, he should
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:46 PM
Feb 2012

The industry shouldn't showcase violent criminals. What kind of message is that??? What if he was a rapist, and his victim was sitting in the audience, like Rhianna was last night?

It was a travesty he received only a slap on the wrist from the courts, but then his industry rewards his criminal behavior.

If you were dating a coworker and beat her up and then were convicted of a felony, what would your employer do?

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
6. "I'm Not Okay with Chris Brown Performing at the Grammys and I'm Not Sure Why You Are"...
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:06 PM
Feb 2012

Good Rant Here!!!


ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com
02/12/2012


I'm Not Okay with Chris Brown Performing at the Grammys and I'm Not Sure Why You Areohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com


I’m sick and tired of people acting like it’s no big deal that Chris Brown will be performing at the Grammys.

I’m frustrated that the mainstream media is covering this story like it’s any comeback story, like an exiled prince’s return to a former glory, like this is another political timeline — as though some rich and powerful old white men in the music business have not just issued an enormous ‘f**k you’ to every woman who has been, is or will be on the receiving end of domestic violence.

We should be furious.

Why aren’t we?


Read more at ONTD: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/66508442.html#ixzz1mI3SpSO3

Hollywood Hills

(48 posts)
8. All I'm sayin' is.....
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:19 PM
Feb 2012

Punish all of the abusers. Stop seeing their movies, stop buying their records, etc. Let's single out ALL of them and be consistent in our punishment.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
14. I was very excited...
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:28 PM
Feb 2012

about Adele's comeback! That's the only reason I watched. I think I went for a soda or hung out on DU when he was on.

I think it's ironic that Michael Vick gets continuously slagged for what he did to animals (and I used to work at PETA--I'm against what he did too), to the point where people think he should never be able to play in the NFL again (or be out of jail) and no one seems to think beating your girlfriend/wife/S.O. is a big deal. Granted Vick was responsible for the death's of a lot of animals but people are always saying that people are more important than animals. This situation doesn't prove that assertion and the lack of outrage is telling.

obamanut2012

(26,087 posts)
15. I thought it was appalling
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:42 PM
Feb 2012

A convicted DV felon who got off with a slap on the wrist, and he performed twice. With Rhianna there. I turned the channel both times, and also when he won his award.

He's allowed to earn a living in music, but the industry doesn't have to showcase him.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
16. Hi group!
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:42 PM
Feb 2012

First post here.

What really ticked me off was that he really is talented. I loved watching his moves.
My daughter and I texted back and forth during the show, and we both used the same bad word.
We wrote at the same time... too bad he is such a dickhead.

obamanut2012

(26,087 posts)
20. Appalling reactions to Chris Brown's performance by young women
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:49 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/horrible-reactions-to-chris-brown-at-the-grammys



I was going to make an OP out of this, but I didn't want to split the comments on this subject between two threads. Too important.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
23. I think some of these are made up accounts
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:04 PM
Feb 2012

and other's appear to be very malformed "jokes." I was reading TheeRealMC or MAC and apparently she is now getting cyberbullied. But yeah, they're sick...

Poor kids, not thinking before they put themselves out into an environment that affords absolutely no privacy.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
25. The one I visited said there was no such user
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:18 PM
Feb 2012

but, I may have been searching incorrectly. I'm not as twitter literate as I should be.

Some people make up fake accounts on twitter, then tweet something outrageous hoping to increase their followers, and then spam people with whatever cr*p they're selling.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
28. I hope you're right.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:33 PM
Feb 2012

I saw those in a different story (posted the link to Slate above) and it sure would be (a little) nice(r) to think they were fake. Although I wish they'd been swarmed with outrage. (Maybe they were, I don't twitter.)

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
29. The two I looked at were definitely swarmed with rage
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:37 PM
Feb 2012

so much so, as I posted above, the one young woman was complaining about being cyber bullied.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. Wonder if Chris Brown's publicist hired someone to ginn those monstrosities up?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 01:43 AM
Feb 2012

They don't seem real to me.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
34. It doesn't make sense that they'd
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 07:48 AM
Feb 2012

want this back in the news but goodness knows, some folks believe any publicity is good publicity.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. Well, it's pushback against the "Why is that girlfriend-beater allowed back in the public eye?"
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:28 PM
Feb 2012

complaints.

This isn't coming out of the blue--the conversation ahead of this has been "Ewwww; who wants to hear or see that creep on a family program? What kind of message is this sending to young children, that a guy who did such a heinous thing is lionized on TV and suffered so few consequences for his ungentlemanly and violent behavior?"

A publicist would take that trash and try to turn it into treasure. I'm not sure this is the best way to go about it, but I have been surprised before at the sensibilities and priorities of the younger generations.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
36. Just wanted to update, this is now on CNN
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:32 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/14/living/chris-brown-response-tweets/index.html

"For the Grammys to give Chris Brown two performances on the music industry's biggest night of the year is like saying, 'have one performance for each year you weren't on the Grammy stage because you beat your girlfriend,' " she said.

"It's not only part and parcel of the dismissive way that the industry treats its female artists, but also indicative of its willingness to prioritize violent male performers over other performers that are equally commercially viable."

It's unfortunate but not surprising, she said, especially given the executive producer's comments that the Grammys suffered from a loss of performers because of the beating. Rightly or wrongly so, the media is the message and the messenger, she said.
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