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Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:01 PM Feb 2013

Derailing for Dummies, redux

I shared this a few years ago, it's been through some changes and updates, but it seems like it could do with a repost.

http://birdofparadox.wordpress.com/derailing-for-dummies-google-cache-reconstruction

"You know how it is.

You’re enjoying yourself, kicking back and relaxing at the pub or maybe at the library; or maybe you’re in class or just casually surfing the internet, indulging in a little conversation. The topic of the conversation is about a pertinent contemporary issue, probably something to do with a group of people who fall outside your realm of experience and identity. They’re also probably fairly heavily discriminated against – or so they claim.

The thing is, you’re having a good time, sharing your knowledge about these people and their issues. This knowledge is incontrovertible – it’s been backed up in media representation, books, research and lots and lots of historical events, also your own unassailable sense of being right.

Yet all of a sudden something happens to put a dampener on your sharing of your enviable intellect and incomparable capacity to fully perceive and understand All Things. It’s someone who belongs to the group of people you’re discussing and they’re Not Very Happy with you. Apparently, they claim, you’ve got it all wrong and they’re offended about that. They might be a person of colour, or a queer person. Maybe they’re a woman, or a person with disability. They could even be a trans person or a sex worker. The point is they’re trying to tell you they know better than you about their issues and you know that’s just plain wrong. How could you be wrong?

Don’t worry though! There IS something you can do to nip this potentially awkward and embarrassing situation in the bud. By simply derailing the conversation, dismissing their opinion as false and ridiculing their experience you can be sure that they continue to be marginalised and unheard and you can continue to look like the expert you know you really are, deep down inside!

CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE PRIVILEGE!

Just follow this step-by-step guide to Conversing with Marginalised People™ and in no time at all you will have a fool-proof method of derailing every challenging conversation you may get into, thus reaping the full benefits of every privilege that you have.

The best part is, you don’t even have to be a white, heterosexual, cisgendered, cissexual, upper-class male to enjoy the full benefits of derailing conversation! Nope, you can utilise the lesser-recognised tactic of Horizontal Hostility to make sure that, despite being a member of a Marginalised Group™ yourself, you can exercise a privilege another Marginalised Group™ doesn’t have in order not to heed their experience!

Read on, and learn, and remember… you don’t have to use these in any particular order! In fact, mixing them up can really keep those Marginalised People™ on their toes! After all, they are pretty much used to hearing this stuff, so you don’t want to get too predictable or they’ll get lazy!

If You Won’t Educate Me How Can I Learn

If You Cared About These Matters You’d Be Willing To Educate Me

You’re Being Hostile

But That Happens To Me Too!

You’re Being Overemotional

You’re Just Oversensitive – NEW!

You Just Enjoy Being Offended – NEW!

Don’t You Have More Important Issues To Think About – NEW!

You’re Taking Things Too Personally

You’re Not Being Intellectual Enough/You’re Being Overly Intellectual

You’re Interrogating From The Wrong Perspective – NEW!

You’re Arguing With Opinions Not Fact

Your Experience Is Not Representative Of Everyone

Unless You Can Prove Your Experience Is Widespread I Won’t Believe It

I Don’t Think You’re As Marginalised As You Claim

Aren’t You Treating Each Other Worse Anyway – NEW!

But You’re Different To The Others – NEW!

Well I Know Another Person From Your Group Who Disagrees!

A In B Situation Is Not Equivalent To X In Y Situation

Who Wins Gold in the Oppression Olympics?

You Have A False Consciousness

You’re Not Being A Team Player

You’ve Lost Your Temper So I Don’t Have To Listen To You Anymore

You Are Damaging Your Cause By Being Angry

You’re As Bad As They Are – NEW!

Surprise! I Was Playing “Devil’s Advocate” All Along!"

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Derailing for Dummies, redux (Original Post) Starry Messenger Feb 2013 OP
I think I have seen all of these derailing statements at least 100 times... Jasana Feb 2013 #1
I tend to park in GD and Meta, I admit. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #2
Thanks for your reply... Jasana Mar 2013 #7
I think we have had individual threads where every one of those was trotted out. MadrasT Feb 2013 #3
We could fill up several cards at this point. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #4
Thanks for helping to restore my sanity too. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #5
Good post over there, too. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #6

Jasana

(490 posts)
1. I think I have seen all of these derailing statements at least 100 times...
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:03 PM
Feb 2013

since I've been on the Internet. They all piss me off to no end but the one that's aggravating me more and more is the "educate me" one.

Like gee... I really want to explain for the 10,000th time why rape jokes are not funny.

Like gee... I really want to explain for the 10,000th time why I hate being catcalled for the 100,000th time since I first began to try walking down the street while female.

Like gee... I really want to explain for the 10,000th time why the 15,897th boob joke bored me to shit and made me wish I could flush you down a toilet.

Curious question: Why is this group not more active? Do they just prefer to constantly fight it out in GD?

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
2. I tend to park in GD and Meta, I admit.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:46 AM
Feb 2013

Speaking only for myself. I cohost in a few other groups too though, and nearly all groups tend to be quieter. GD is like the DU town square.

Jasana

(490 posts)
7. Thanks for your reply...
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 12:27 AM
Mar 2013

I like where the action is so I'll hang out in GD for awhile longer and I may....may try hanging out in Meta for awhile again. (It scared me a bit the last time I was there. They were all talking about alerts and juries. I've only been on one jury so far. It was my first day after I signed up! I certainly wasn't ready for it but I've always taken my jury notices IRL very seriously so I took this one very seriously as well. I did my best to try to figure out what was going on and then stated why I did what I did so the poster would know how I was thinking.)

I hope I didn't piss off anybody. Ah well, can't please everyone can you? Again, thank you for your answer. I hope I will make a good addition here.







MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
3. I think we have had individual threads where every one of those was trotted out.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:01 PM
Feb 2013
(Runs off to make a new BINGO card...)

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
5. Thanks for helping to restore my sanity too.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 08:33 PM
Mar 2013

Oh, yeah. I call BINGO! too (with a hat tip to MadrasT)

x-posting of a list in a similar vein over in HoF:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125514622

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