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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 07:44 AM Feb 2020

Signs of cancer can appear long before diagnosis, study shows

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/feb/05/signs-of-cancer-can-appear-long-before-diagnosis-study-shows

Signs of cancer can appear long before diagnosis, study shows

Hannah Devlin Science correspondent

Wed 5 Feb 2020 18.20 GMT Last modified on Thu 6 Feb 2020 01.05 GMT

Early signs of cancer can appear years or even decades before diagnosis, according to the most comprehensive investigation to date of the genetic mutations that cause healthy cells to turn malignant.

The findings, based on samples from more than 2,500 tumours and 38 cancer types, reveal a longer-than-expected window of opportunity in which patients could potentially be tested and treated at the earliest stages of the disease.

The work was carried out as part of the Pan-Cancer Analysis of Whole Genomes project, the most comprehensive study of cancer genetics to date.
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The discovery that the seeds of cancer are often sown many years before the first symptoms arise will not change cancer screening in the immediate term. But it points to the possibility that those at risk could be spotted far earlier.

The study revealed that about half of the earliest mutations occurred in just nine genes, meaning there is a relatively small pool of common genes that serve as triggers for cells to diverge from healthy development to a path towards cancer. It might be possible, in future, to pick up such mutations using so-called liquid biopsies – genetic tests that detect mutations in free-floating DNA carried in the blood that can indicate the presence of tumours elsewhere in the body.
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The team analysed and sequenced nearly 2,700 whole genomes of cancer samples and mapped mutations in 38 different types of tumours.

While human cells undergo billions of mutations, only a small number of them, called driver mutations, give rise to cancer. The researchers looked at how many times a single change, or driver mutation, had been replicated and copied across chromosomes.

Using what they describe as a “carbon-dating method”, they were able to reconstruct the order in which the genomes of cancer cells started to accumulate errors and eventually carry large segments that had been scrambled or copied. The team found that these mutations occurred “particularly early” in ovarian cancer as well as in two types of brain tumour, glioblastoma and medulloblastoma.

The analysis is published in Nature as part of a wider collection of 22 papers from the Pan-Cancer project.
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Signs of cancer can appear long before diagnosis, study shows (Original Post) nitpicker Feb 2020 OP
The Guardian seems quite remarkable and impressive on the news scenes empedocles Feb 2020 #1
It's very good, and I hope those who can will support their donation model. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2020 #2
Exactly. paleotn Feb 2020 #7
NPR had somebody weeks or months ago.cancer doc i think. pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #3
The body is just like the stock market bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #4
My dad ( a doctor) died from a glioblastoma... B Stieg Feb 2020 #5
Oh my, so sorry. I hate it too. And you just dont Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #6
Thanks, LPMaD. It made for several, tough years. B Stieg Feb 2020 #8
I want them to invent something to sustain the feelings you Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #10
Used to be, but I've been in CA for more than a decade B Stieg Feb 2020 #11
this is strange but.... Skittles Feb 2020 #14
What were the earliest signs of your dad's glioblastoma? rainin Feb 2020 #9
Thank you. It was about 15 years ago... B Stieg Feb 2020 #12
So young at 61. I'm sorry. rainin Feb 2020 #13

pansypoo53219

(20,974 posts)
3. NPR had somebody weeks or months ago.cancer doc i think.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 08:30 AM
Feb 2020

said our bodies kill cancer all the time until something goes haywire.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
4. The body is just like the stock market
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 08:44 AM
Feb 2020

Technical analysis works great except when things go wrong at the peak

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. Oh my, so sorry. I hate it too. And you just dont
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:47 AM
Feb 2020

Know the horror until you or someone you love go through it. The sickening treatments, surgeries, loss of hair, weakness, and debilitating fear.

This discovery makes total sense though. Hope once they figure out how to test that figuring out how to stop the bad mutations will not be far behind.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
8. Thanks, LPMaD. It made for several, tough years.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:03 AM
Feb 2020

BTW, love your user name, avatar and posts.

Less than a week until pitchers and catchers report, and the Yanks now have an ace!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. I want them to invent something to sustain the feelings you
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 01:42 PM
Feb 2020

get when a loved one endures it, and you say"life is fragile, will only care about important stuff" and it lasts for a while and then you go back to reacting to stupid petty stuff.

Are u in NY? In the mood for them to have a great year. I'm from CT.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
11. Used to be, but I've been in CA for more than a decade
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 06:49 PM
Feb 2020

I graduated from Wesleyan, though, so Connecticut will always remain in my heart.
Go Yankees!

Skittles

(153,154 posts)
14. this is strange but....
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:14 PM
Feb 2020

my mum died of cancer and never even took a Tylenol.....the only complication was fluid in the abdomen.....when I saw her on her last day, she looked normal, just like she was sleeping

rainin

(3,011 posts)
9. What were the earliest signs of your dad's glioblastoma?
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:17 AM
Feb 2020

I am so worried about that cancer. I have constant pressure in my ear where I held a cell phone for 10 years.

Sorry for your loss, Stieg

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
12. Thank you. It was about 15 years ago...
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 07:01 PM
Feb 2020

but memories of the caregiving experience remain, some unexpectedly joyful, but most very difficult.

The first sign was disorientation. He was working in Upstate NY as a physician in the V.A., and he just started missing work or showing up at the wrong time for his shifts. It turned out he was driving around in circles. At 61, he seemed too young for it to be the result of Alzheimer's. And, eventually, tests showed a tumor wrapped around his brain.

Right after the surgery, the doctor said he would live a year. He was right, to the day.

If you suspect anything is wrong with the head, do NOT hesitate: go see a neurologist!

rainin

(3,011 posts)
13. So young at 61. I'm sorry.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 07:27 PM
Feb 2020

I'm 55 and having weird experiences, too, like saying to my spouse that I wish there was such a thing as a potholder in the shape of a glove. Then, looking down and recognizing the potholder gloves I've had for most of my adult life right in front of me. My brain just glitched out. So strange. Scary moment for my spouse.

Thanks for the advice to see a neurologist. I should.

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