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(47,407 posts)
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 05:20 PM Oct 2020

I am sure that osteopathic physicians perform important role in healthcare; but in the White House?

I admit, my only encounter with, at least, a student in the Osteopathic local school, was when a wife of a student complained to me, at the gym, that they has to know chemistry.

Yes, I told her. Many medicines derive from chemistry. And the interaction between a drug, or drugs, and the body are a result of chemistry. All the physiological functions in a body are chemistry.



To add

Conley issued a memo approving Trump’s use of hydroxycholoroquine, writing “the potential benefit from treatment outweighed the relative risks.” It is unclear if Conley had explicitly prescribed the medication.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dr-sean-conley-says-trumps-181652268.html




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I am sure that osteopathic physicians perform important role in healthcare; but in the White House? (Original Post) question everything Oct 2020 OP
DOs are ubiquitous The Genealogist Oct 2020 #1
Thank you! True Blue American Oct 2020 #6
As described to me, the difference is philosophical in nature The Genealogist Oct 2020 #8
I honestly saw no difference. He was our True Blue American Oct 2020 #9
We had a DO for a primary physician for many years. They have all the same qualifications as an MD bullimiami Oct 2020 #7
This again? This is nothing wrong with Osteopaths, Dr. Conley perhaps excepted. hlthe2b Oct 2020 #2
Thank you. we can do it Oct 2020 #4
WTF we can do it Oct 2020 #3
D.O.s and M.D.s train together in residencies and fellowships. madaboutharry Oct 2020 #5
Osteopaths did the same internships and resedencies in Boston at some hospitals Warpy Oct 2020 #10
If they had the same training, how did they end up with different specialties? question everything Oct 2020 #11
You answered your own question Warpy Oct 2020 #12

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
1. DOs are ubiquitous
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 05:28 PM
Oct 2020

I work for a group of hospitalists, and there are several DOs among them. They're regarded as equal to MDs.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
8. As described to me, the difference is philosophical in nature
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 05:38 PM
Oct 2020

Different approaches to delivering care. The training is pretty much the same otherwise.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
9. I honestly saw no difference. He was our
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 05:58 PM
Oct 2020

Family Doctor for years.

He did perform the first hair transplant on Hugh Downs, then appeared on the Phil Donahue show. Phil was in Dayton then.

bullimiami

(13,067 posts)
7. We had a DO for a primary physician for many years. They have all the same qualifications as an MD
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 05:36 PM
Oct 2020

plus the osteopathic part.

He was a family friend and a fine doctor.

hlthe2b

(102,057 posts)
2. This again? This is nothing wrong with Osteopaths, Dr. Conley perhaps excepted.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 05:28 PM
Oct 2020

This is really unacceptable. Please educate yourself.

DOs have every bit the training of MDs with the additional emphasis on physical examinations above and beyond that which MDs get trained to perform. Not chiropractic--something many who disdain DOs misunderstand. Frankly, we'd all be better off if good thorough physical exam technique (and thorough medical history) continued to be emphasized in medical school over the immediate jump to lab and scans/tech. I'm not a DO, but I've come to respect them and their slightly different training tremendously.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
10. Osteopaths did the same internships and resedencies in Boston at some hospitals
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:46 PM
Oct 2020

that MDs from Harvard, Tufts, and other schools did. Their focus was different but they had to know their stuff or they were eaten alive in M&M sessions. There weren't many of them, but the ones who were there and able to cope with Boston teaching hospitals were competent.

Conley strikes me as somebody who is going along to get along and counting the days until it's all over. At least he's not quite as bonkers as Jackson seems to be if yesterday's tweet was any indication. Either he's broken half his fingers or holy crap!

Conley's got a hugely oversized 74 year old toddler to cope with, a toddler who will fire anyone who disagrees with him on anything he knows absolutely nothing about, like nearly everything. Most of his job is likely directed toward limiting harm.

As for the hydroxychloroquine, the 400mg./day that I was on probably didn't do much damage but I wonder if it's penetrated the cement in Dumdum's head that blindness is a side effect and he's going to need to get his eyes checked every 6 months for the next few years.

question everything

(47,407 posts)
11. If they had the same training, how did they end up with different specialties?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:03 PM
Oct 2020

Just as dermatologists should not be treating heart problems, osteopaths should not be treating infectious diseases.

But then, given Trump's disdain for science, or to any profession. given his previous doctors - remember before the election when we heard that Trump would be the "healthiest individual," later recanted - I can almost imagine Trump actively selecting a personal physician with questionable qualifications.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
12. You answered your own question
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:49 PM
Oct 2020

Conley seems like a guy who gives the big baby whatever he wants. Perhaps he's secretly counting the royalties from the tell all book he's going to write once Dumdum is out. Who knows?

He's at least somebody Dumdum can bully.

ETA: I didn't say the same training, I said the same internships.

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