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Dulcinea

(9,520 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 06:51 AM Nov 24

'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant physicians?

(NPR) Michael Liu grew up in Toronto, Canada, then moved to the U.S. for college and medical school because, to him, America was the premiere destination for fulfilling his aspirations to become a physician and researcher.

"You know, in chase of the American Dream, and understanding all the opportunities — that was such a draw for me," says Liu, who attended Harvard University. He is now 28 and has deep personal and professional roots in Boston, where he's an internal medicine resident at Mass General Brigham.

But this spring, he was shaken by the Trump administration's cuts to scientific research at the National Institutes of Health and staff at the Department of Health and Human Services. "That was a really striking moment for me," Liu says. "It made me question where, professionally, it made most sense for me. I still have strong connections to Toronto and mentors."

Then, in September, Liu was doing rounds with two doctors from Mexico and Costa Rica, when the administration hiked fees nearly 30 fold for H1B visas, which are for highly trained professionals, to $100,000. He watched his colleagues' tearful reactions to the sudden uncertainty that thrust on their careers, knowing that employers like hospital systems are unlikely to be able to afford to pay for such dramatic increases.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/11/24/nx-s1-5618291/immigrant-physicians-foreign-born-doctors-trump-h1b

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'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant physicians? (Original Post) Dulcinea Nov 24 OP
Make Med School Free OC375 Nov 24 #1
Immigrant doctor numbers in the USA are around 50%. twodogsbarking Nov 24 #2
Trump is trying to collapse everything that is good in our nation. nt Trueblue Texan Nov 24 #3
Not just everything "good".... mountain grammy Nov 24 #9
All according to plan. OldBaldy1701E Nov 24 #4
And nurses ... Bmoboy Nov 24 #5
So true ninjanurse Nov 24 #12
we'll die off quicker without health care. barbtries Nov 24 #6
it's definitely active eugenics where they are trying to kill off anyone they deem as weak LymphocyteLover Nov 24 #8
it will. barbtries Nov 24 #11
I feel that, as I am getting up there too. But I do feel a major backlash coming and feel like this regime is not going LymphocyteLover Nov 24 #15
Who will clean up the mess ninjanurse Nov 24 #13
this psychopathic evil administration DOES NOT CARE LymphocyteLover Nov 24 #7
The Talibanization of the USA NBachers Nov 24 #10
A contrarian view OrangeJoe Nov 24 #14

OldBaldy1701E

(9,760 posts)
4. All according to plan.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 08:16 AM
Nov 24

Immigrants are more likely to have morals and to vote blue.

That and the regime wants to make healthcare only available to the rich.

All according to plan.

Bmoboy

(596 posts)
5. And nurses ...
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 08:46 AM
Nov 24

And staff for nursing homes, home care aides, X ray techs, medical assistants, etc.

It's not just the surgeons and researchers, it's all the support staff that actually provide the day to day personal care.

Immigrants provide the backbone of American health care.

That's one way to reduce the population, especially those old people who are sucking up those Social Security and Medicare dollars.

ninjanurse

(121 posts)
12. So true
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 09:11 AM
Nov 24

We are poaching nurses from other countries where they are needed, and for recent immigrants to the US, health care is a good employment option. We are lucky we have so many immigrants interested and able to fill health care jobs, because there has been a nursing shortage for decades and this administration is making the work less attractive with job insecurity. We need to fix the first rungs of the nursing ladder so there is opportunity for everyone who has the right stuff to advance to more training and better pay. Then we won’t have a shortage of workers, but will they find jobs?

barbtries

(31,028 posts)
6. we'll die off quicker without health care.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 08:51 AM
Nov 24

i'm convinced this is their plan.

they've already killed around 600,000 people by destroying USAID.

LymphocyteLover

(9,180 posts)
8. it's definitely active eugenics where they are trying to kill off anyone they deem as weak
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 09:05 AM
Nov 24

I can only hope it backfires and bites them in the ass hard

barbtries

(31,028 posts)
11. it will.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 09:10 AM
Nov 24

they don't seem to realize that when they take it all down they will go down with it.

all i'm unsure of is how long. how long, how long, how long. I'm 70 and not convinced I will live to see the restoration of democracy in the USA.

LymphocyteLover

(9,180 posts)
15. I feel that, as I am getting up there too. But I do feel a major backlash coming and feel like this regime is not going
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 03:35 PM
Nov 24

to last too much longer in their current form. Maybe not even another year.

OrangeJoe

(546 posts)
14. A contrarian view
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 10:21 AM
Nov 24

I’ll probably get grief for this but here goes. I think it is morally wrong for the US to recruit skilled individuals from both middle income and especially lower income countries. These nations spend scarce resources educating outstanding individuals and then just when they are ready to help their communities we come along and dangle piles of dollars in front of them.

Note I don’t blame the people accepting these jobs I blame greedy America for poaching them and leaving their countries in even more dire straits.

I spent most of my career working in developing countries and no matter how much people here cry about shortages of skilled professionals you’ve never experienced anything like a real shortage of doctors or engineers.

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