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TexasBushwhacker

(20,142 posts)
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 04:22 PM Jul 2021

Well, I finally got around to watching "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"

OMG - IT'S SO LONG and it has NO PLOT! If anyone else other than Tarantino shopped the script around Hollywood, it would have gone straight in the trash. It's as long as Pulp Fiction, but things HAPPENED in PF. His movies still make money, but I have no idea why.

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Well, I finally got around to watching "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" (Original Post) TexasBushwhacker Jul 2021 OP
Two reasons... Tarantino and Brad Pitt.. nt mitch96 Jul 2021 #1
I wasn't a fan. onecaliberal Jul 2021 #2
I watched about 50 minutes of it. SamKnause Jul 2021 #3
To be fair, there were things happening, they just didn't make much sense. TygrBright Jul 2021 #4
I know I am among an intense minority, but I've never become a fan of Tarantino's work hlthe2b Jul 2021 #5
I'm with you. Glad others enjoy him but I never got it. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #29
I liked it. Bought it on BluRay, in fact. Sibelius Fan Jul 2021 #6
Loved it. Makes total sense if you know the Manson story. we can do it Jul 2021 #7
Lol! 10 academy award nominations! Maybe it's you?? Nt USALiberal Jul 2021 #8
Because it made a lot of money TexasBushwhacker Jul 2021 #18
It was indeed mostly boring. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #9
We both have watched it several times. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #10
I loved it, especially the revision of what happened. Croney Jul 2021 #11
This chick LOVED the flick Sedona Jul 2021 #12
Wasn't he great? Nt XanaDUer2 Jul 2021 #14
Yes, Sedona. And then there was that. 😋 Polly Hennessey Jul 2021 #21
I loved how they styled him JustAnotherGen Jul 2021 #23
One of my favorites! XanaDUer2 Jul 2021 #13
LOVE ALL the T'tino movies EXCEPT Sedona Jul 2021 #16
I didn't like The Hateful Eight - too long and no sympathetic characters TexasBushwhacker Jul 2021 #22
Django JustAnotherGen Jul 2021 #24
I loved it, but to be totally honest I wanted to see what KHJ airchecks had been used. rsdsharp Jul 2021 #15
Loved it. Itchinjim Jul 2021 #17
I loved it. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2021 #19
Pulp Fiction is a masterpiece MerryHolidays Jul 2021 #20
+1000 nt USALiberal Jul 2021 #28
(Full disclosure: Tarantino fan) I loved Once Upon a Time Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2021 #25
Good retelling of the Manson story? TexasBushwhacker Jul 2021 #26
It focused on those in his web. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2021 #27

TygrBright

(20,755 posts)
4. To be fair, there were things happening, they just didn't make much sense.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jul 2021

It was the guy equivalent of a Barbara Cartland novel - all fantasy and formula.

I know a lot of guys who just swooned over it.

There were certainly some humorous moments. (I admit I sort of liked the Bruce Lee sequence.)

But it was mostly just fantasy stuff, "what SHOULD have happened" from the Tarantino-brain.

The Tarantino-brain seems to have a solid line on a lot of guy-fantasy stuff about revenge and proving how corrupt 'the system' is, and how much bullshit is involved in, well, everything. And the Lonely Rebel tropes, and the bromance stuff, etcetera.

This movie took all those things and tossed them together like a big salad.

Chick-flick for the penis-endowed, basically. AKA "Dick-flick."

helpfully,
Bright

TexasBushwhacker

(20,142 posts)
18. Because it made a lot of money
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 05:25 PM
Jul 2021

Titanic got lots of nominations and made a lot of money too. It's still just a soap opera on a big boat.

The Academy is still made up of mostly old white men who love big budget movies that employ a lot of people and make a lot of money. Ever since they increased the number of Best Picture nominees in 2009, its significance has been diluted. It's still more significant than the Golden Globes though, which are ludicrous.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
9. It was indeed mostly boring.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 04:43 PM
Jul 2021

Watched it on some premium channel months ago, without knowing anything about the film beforehand.

I kept watching when it became clear that the girls were part of the Manson family. I was curious if it was going to show what happened to Sharon Tate (also portrayed in the movie) and the other murder victims.

Then it obviously departed from what really happened, but I couldn't help but laugh at the flamethrower scene in the pool.

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
10. We both have watched it several times.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 04:47 PM
Jul 2021

No movie will be Pulp Fiction.

I liked it better than his western where EVERYONE is ugly and hateful and everyone dies.

We are talking about it. I call it a win for the movie.

Croney

(4,656 posts)
11. I loved it, especially the revision of what happened.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 04:53 PM
Jul 2021

That rewriting of the horror story made my heart happy, if only for the few minutes I was able to let go of reality and dream.

And, Brad Pitt.

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
12. This chick LOVED the flick
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 04:55 PM
Jul 2021

In fact I called it a masterpiece on more than one occasion.

and then there was this


XanaDUer2

(10,497 posts)
13. One of my favorites!
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 04:57 PM
Jul 2021

hated Kill Bill.

I like the re-creation of 1969. Margot Robbie is so pretty, and Sharon Tate's sister said she captured her sister's spirit.

Imo, the best scene is at Spahn ranch. Pitt walked away with the movie. I purchased the extra scenes version.

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
16. LOVE ALL the T'tino movies EXCEPT
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 05:09 PM
Jul 2021

Kill Bill.

Unwatchable.

Go figure.

Django Unchained is off the hook.

Inglorious Bastards....

Alternate universe ending as well.

Pitt is SO good in that too!



TexasBushwhacker

(20,142 posts)
22. I didn't like The Hateful Eight - too long and no sympathetic characters
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:23 PM
Jul 2021

There were parts of Kill Bill that were okay, but ultimately I think he should have made one solid 2 hour film instead of 2.

As they say, you must "kill your darlings" (or murder your babies depending on who your babies). QT is, and always has been, his own biggest fan. He would do so much better if he had a strong producer or editor who would reign him in.

The writer/director "auteur" method can produce amazing works of art, but it can also produce cinematic masturbation. I've grown tired of QT's racism and misogyny. I'm curious what he could do with someone else's script.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
24. Django
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 07:02 PM
Jul 2021

Made me a fan. I didn't "get" him until that movie. Then Bastards, Pulp Fiction.

I loved the alternative chain of events.

rsdsharp

(9,137 posts)
15. I loved it, but to be totally honest I wanted to see what KHJ airchecks had been used.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 05:04 PM
Jul 2021

I know some of the people who provided them.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,482 posts)
19. I loved it.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 05:32 PM
Jul 2021

I watch it whenever it’s on. Then again I watch all his movies over and over. QT is a master of the art.

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
20. Pulp Fiction is a masterpiece
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 05:54 PM
Jul 2021

We still watch it and find all sorts of hidden messages and symbolism after 30 or 40 times of watching it. It's funny, paid homage to so many movies, was brilliantly edited, had first-rate dialogue, etc. I can't say enough about the movie.

I always thought that the reason that each segment was out of linear sequence was that Tarantino was trying to show that a moment of redemption that can change your life can happen at any time, not just at the end of your life or at the end of a movie. And you either take that redemption or you don't. Everything can change depending on what you do or don't do when that moment presents itself. Powerful stuff.

Samuel L. Jackson's failure to be nominated as Best Actor and his not winning Best Supporting Actor was an Academy travesty. The dynamic range of his performance is incredible. Travolta, Willis, Thurman, Rhames etc. gave fantastic performances too. But, IMHO, without any doubt, Mr. Jackson was the life force behind "Pulp Fiction." The last 10 minutes of the movie, which was really just mid-way through a linear sequence, is one of the finest in all moviedom, and it's Samuel L. Jackson who carries it.

"Once upon a Time in Hollywood" was just ok for me. I guess its ending was what we wish, in hindsight, had happened with Manson and the Family. But, it was incongruous because we know it didn't happen and that the real ending was so horribly awful. Great performances by Leonardo, Brad, Margot, etc., but it cannot match the magic of "Pulp Fiction".

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
25. (Full disclosure: Tarantino fan) I loved Once Upon a Time
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 07:59 PM
Jul 2021

It was a pretty good retelling of the Manson story with Tarantino's fairy tale ending. That's a solid plot. Nobody else but Tarantino would have come up with that script. It is genius. Tarantino said he would do 12 films and this was his 11th. I told my wife (not a Tarantino fan who liked the movie) that he just needs to quit with this one because I don't think he can top it.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,142 posts)
26. Good retelling of the Manson story?
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 08:15 PM
Jul 2021

Manson was a white supremacist who wanted to start a race war (Helter Skelter).

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