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TrogL

(32,818 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:15 PM Mar 2022

How do I find a non-fad-based therapist?

Years ago, everybody had Tourettes even though they didn't tick.

Lately mindfulness is the hammer they hit every nail with.

Me: I'm having issues with obsessions.

Them: You need to learn how to breathe.

Me: I'm a trained singer and have done yoga since the 80's. I know how to breathe. Obsessions?

Them: You need to practice mindfulness. Mantras may help.

Me: I study Jung and have done Trancendental Meditation since the 70's. Try again.

Them: You're not cooperating.

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How do I find a non-fad-based therapist? (Original Post) TrogL Mar 2022 OP
Yes, I think this is a problem the bandwagon solution a new model evey year. ShazamIam Mar 2022 #1
Do a search for therapist, your zip & obsessions SheltieLover Mar 2022 #2
+1 ColinC Mar 2022 #7
Following because I have much the same issue. Runningdawg Mar 2022 #3
Ffs! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #4
Do you have a university nearby? piddyprints Mar 2022 #5
TM and Mindfulness are not the same Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #6
My experience as a client finds that a combination of techniques can be helpful ColinC Mar 2022 #9
Indeed- therapy isn't one size/approach fits all. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #10
This might fall under the fad based concern you have ColinC Mar 2022 #8
EMDR is over 30 years old Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #11
I knew about the strong evidence based, but thought it was only within a decade that ColinC Mar 2022 #12
It was originally developed to treat PTSD in combat veterans from the first Gulf war. Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #13
finding a therapist in my area that takes medical assistance EMDR is only a dream. I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #16
Do you mean a therapist who accepts Medicaid? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #17
MA does cover psychotherapy I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #18
Well, at least it is better than my experience... OldBaldy1701E Mar 2022 #14
for profit healthcare is what caused this health care rage crisis. I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #19
Yeppers. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Mar 2022 #20
The positive think I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #15

ShazamIam

(2,564 posts)
1. Yes, I think this is a problem the bandwagon solution a new model evey year.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:23 PM
Mar 2022

I think I could benefit from a therapist, my fear, a religions therapist. The difference in
believing and not believing is profound and to me not reconcilable. Meaning I don't think a believer can understand a lack of belief so how do they understand the issues facing a non-believer.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
2. Do a search for therapist, your zip & obsessions
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:25 PM
Mar 2022

Should return results for psychology today list of therapists.

Good luck!

ColinC

(8,273 posts)
7. +1
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 02:59 PM
Mar 2022

This is how I found my person. It also helps having somebody who you can relate to and get along with.

Runningdawg

(4,509 posts)
3. Following because I have much the same issue.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:25 PM
Mar 2022

Them: You are depressed because you are overweight.
Me: I've lost 237 lbs.
Them: Denial about your weight is causing your depression.
Me: Therapists who body shame are part of the problem.
Them: Patient is aggressive and hostile. Prayer is recommended.

piddyprints

(14,636 posts)
5. Do you have a university nearby?
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 02:17 PM
Mar 2022

One that offers a degree in psychology? Usually the head of that department knows most of the therapists in the area and can refer you.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,531 posts)
6. TM and Mindfulness are not the same
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 02:20 PM
Mar 2022

Far from being a fad, Mindfulness practice has a huge body of evidence for its effectiveness in helping treat a wide range of issues. The mindfulness training I have been through did not involve mantras.

That said, a good therapist should listen to you and not offer only one treatment option, but should definitely consider evidence based approaches that they are compentent in and you are comfortable with.

The state you live in may have a professional association (in California it is CAMFT) that has a registry of therapists, their experience and specializations.

(My opinion as a retired therapist)

ColinC

(8,273 posts)
9. My experience as a client finds that a combination of techniques can be helpful
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 03:06 PM
Mar 2022

Like EMDR mixed with traditional CBT and mindfulness, etc have all seem to benefit me in different ways.

ColinC

(8,273 posts)
8. This might fall under the fad based concern you have
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 03:04 PM
Mar 2022

But EMDR is a newer therapy that directly addresses life trauma. Often times a lot of things like anxieties, inability to focus and other characteristics or issues that we struggle with could be rooted in our traumas. I have done a couple months of EMDR and noticed substantial changes in my irritability, depression anxiety and overall happiness. As another poster mentioned, psychology today is a great place to find people. Also I heard Path is also a good place to look which takes a lot of the major insurances:

https://www.pathmentalhealth.com/

Good luck!!!

Fiendish Thingy

(15,531 posts)
11. EMDR is over 30 years old
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 03:35 PM
Mar 2022

Although quite “trendy”, like mindfulness, it has a huge evidence base, and is especially effective in treating trauma.

ColinC

(8,273 posts)
12. I knew about the strong evidence based, but thought it was only within a decade that
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 04:08 PM
Mar 2022

it came around. All I can say is that it seems to have substantially improved my life in so many ways: my focus, memory, SI, anxieties, etc. I also know other people who it has helped.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,531 posts)
13. It was originally developed to treat PTSD in combat veterans from the first Gulf war.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 04:12 PM
Mar 2022

Francine Shapiro, who developed the model, kept a tight reign on who could use the treatment in their practice, initially requiring them to be trained directly by her or 1-2 other research associates, including extensive practicum hours and supervision. EMDR wasn’t something that could be learned in a weekend workshop.

Then about ten years ago, something did change; perhaps there were enough experienced practitioners in the field now, but trainings became more widespread and easier to access, and stringent requirements for certification seemed to be relaxed, so more therapists began advertising it as part of their practice.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
16. finding a therapist in my area that takes medical assistance EMDR is only a dream.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 01:01 AM
Mar 2022

But I so wish I could try EMDR. I would really like to feel better.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,531 posts)
17. Do you mean a therapist who accepts Medicaid?
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:52 AM
Mar 2022

I don’t know if Medicaid covers psychotherapy services, but the professional organization for your state might have listings of the members who accept various payment sources,

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
18. MA does cover psychotherapy
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 08:03 PM
Mar 2022

I don't know if they have limits on which diagnosis gets treated or what. Mine's covered tho. If you are seeking a therapist and have medical assistance ask the therapist if they accept MA. Then tell them the third party corporate insurer parasite "provider" you have and see if it is approved.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,076 posts)
14. Well, at least it is better than my experience...
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:27 AM
Mar 2022

Me: Hello, I wish to see a therapist but I do not have any money.

Every place that offers any help worth a shit: We cannot help you. I wish you the best in your efforts. Good day!

(I don't mind 'for profit' healthcare, I mind that it is the only option anyone has.)

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
19. for profit healthcare is what caused this health care rage crisis.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 08:05 PM
Mar 2022

and for profit insurance is why we cant have universal healthcare like civilized countries do.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
15. The positive think
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 12:56 AM
Mar 2022

the meditation,the stupid cognitive behavior therapy.. yeah too many pop psychologists out there.

I hate this eastern religious practices,positive think and mind-fucking myself (CBT) bullshit as if its a part of therapy. For me it doesn't work and I feel like the therapist isn't listening me. Like they're just selling some new age thing they have faith in. Christian therapy Hahahahaaa yeah.
All of this shit has nothing to do with what I need to heal. I feel ya.

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