"See Something...Say Something?"

[Thunderbeast]

As the tag line on the NBC story about the St. Louis
school shooting tonight, the reporter advised the audience to "say something" if they suspect a troubled individual might commit a heinous crime.

Say what?

To whom?

Who in the community has the authority to investigate or intervene in a report of suspicious behaviors.

NEWS FLASH! There is NOBODY in our communities with the capability to monitor every mentally ill citizen. Until someone actually commits a violent crime, the courts WILL NOT intervene. Civil commitments are nearly impossible. State hospital beds are now nearly completely dedicated to forensic patients awaitng trial.

Family and schools can suggest voluntary counsling. Once a child turns 18, there is no legal way to force an intervention.

"See something...Say something" is largely an empty platitude.

There is nobody to listen.

[onecaliberal]

1. There is no one. We have no social service for any of these people.

So many hammers searching for nails.

[OldBaldy1701E]

2. One group seems to listen.

And, they usually execute the person they were supposed to be assisting. THAT is what needs to change most of all... we need agencies that are equipped and trained to handle this type of domestic issue. NOT the gung-ho Chuck Norris wannabes who are looking for any excuse to establish their 'authoritai' over anyone who does not fall prone when they arrive on the scene.

Just my opinion of course.

[Effete Snob]

3. Yep. It's bullshit.

[TigressDem]

4. WE TIP Aanonymous Tip Line // Various States // Safe2Tell for schools

https://www.wetip.com/


https://www.phillypolice.com/forms/submit-a-tip/


https://home.chicagopolice.org/services/tipsubmit/


https://www.cctexas.com/crimestoppers


http://www.slcpd.com/resources/submit-a-tip/



https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2018/03/16/to-prevent-suicides-and-school-shootings-more-states-embrace-anonymous-tip-lines


In Colorado, at least two high school students were arrested based on information sent to the state anonymous tip line and mobile app, known as Safe2Tell. “They had a list, they had weapons, they knew exactly what they wanted to do,” said Colorado Attorney General Cynthia Coffman, whose office administers the program.






Do you have a school safety concern to report? Reach out to the following state tip lines:

Colorado: download the Safe2Tell app, call 1-877-542-7233, or submit a report at https://safe2tell.org.

Michigan: download the Ok 2 Say app, call 1-855-565-2729, or submit a report at https://www.michigan.gov/ok2say/.

Nevada: download the SafeVoice Nevada app, call 1-833-216-7233, or submit a report at http://safevoicenv.org/.

Oregon: download the Safe Oregon app, call 1-844-47403367, or submit a report at http://safeoregon.com/.

Utah: download the SafeUT app or call 1-800-273-8255, to find out more go to: healthcare.utah.edu/uni/programs/safe-ut-smartphone-app

Wyoming: download the Safe2Tell Wyoming app, call 1-844-996-7233, or submit a report at https://safe2tellwy.org/.

[Thunderbeast]

6. Thank you for the post.

These sites are a promising start. The focus on schools, however, relies on two points of leverage: The school has counselling resources to respond, and the suspected perpetrator is likely a minor with limited civil liberties. Parents are empowered to respond. In cases like Columbine and Springfield, it might have helped. Oxford, Michigan and Sandy Hook demonstrate how parents can become enablers.

Many of the recent school shootings have been carried out by recently graduated young adults...Able to purchase weapons, but out of reach of those who could intervene.

[elleng]

7. Thank you

[stopdiggin]

5. Exactly right!

an empty and essentially meaningless platitude. And maybe it's abut time to start calling out the mouthing of meaningless pablum.

We. Have. Virtually. No. Tools ...
That's the honest answer.