Will I have to hit rock bottom before I change...

[Locut0s]

Still no motivation and not doing anything. I've been trying to resist the urge to drink recently which can only lead to worse places but it's difficult to do. Haven't drank in a few weeks and longer before that. I wish my parents would just kick me out of the house really, though that might lead to worse things. I'm wondering if I will have to hit some form of rock bottom before I change?

Saw the new psychiatrist the other day. He seems ok so far but it will take a number of visits before we get to any new ground.

[fizzgig]

1. i had to hit rock bottom

my ex had to pick my drunk, sobbing, half naked ass up off the floor and take me to the er so i could check myself into the hospital.

my husband has also hit bottom. i had to jimmy the bathroom door because he'd locked himself in there with a knife and was threatening to slit his wrists. i wound up calling 911 and the cops took him to the hospital.

hitting rock bottom sucks, sometimes it's necessary, but i hope you can turn this around before you do.

are you still taking your walks? that really seemed to help you.

[Locut0s]

9. I'm sorry to hear that but it sounds like things worked out...

It sounds like things worked out fairly well for you in the end, which I'm glad to see. No I'm not taking my walks and have put back on a not insignificant amount of weight again due to eating junk. I know I should get back to that.

[elleng]

2. Maybe, if drinking is your major problem,

in which case folks will have to kick you out. Its not my sense that that's your core problem, but I surely could be wrong.

How often will you see the new doc?

[HereSince1628]

3. Some say the need to hit rock bottom and addiction is a myth. you can google that idea

and make up you own mind.

Willingness to work honestly with a therapist seems essential and rational. If hitting rock bottom finally makes a person willing to do that, rather than turning them into a fractured Humpty Dumpty after the fall, maybe that's the ticket

[enough]

6. That's probably the connection. For most people, it's hard to work up the energy and willingness

to work honestly and hard without first hitting bottom -- the work is so difficult and lonely. Hitting bottom is the final shock: if I don't do this I'm either going to die or live in hell all my life. But some people can get that realization before actually hitting it.

It's amazing how hard this all is.

[In_The_Wind]

4. Let's hope not. You are honestly seeking a change for the better.

You may not have to hurt any more than you do now.

[Tobin S.]

5. I don't think so.

I know a guy who has hit rock bottom and he has just kind of stayed there and wallowed around in misery for the last 15 years. Seriously, I have not seen any improvement in that time.

[libodem]

7. I learned

Not to let myself go clear to the bottom emotionally. It is too hard to come up from ground zero. I found this on my Facebook feed today.

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[libodem]

8. This seemed good too

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[applegrove]

10. Good that you are not drinking. Why

not try AA. That way you can join in with people who are on the way to mending. And grow that way.

[hunter]

11. I'm not in a great place now, but it's nowhere near my worst.

Sometimes simply muddling through is often the best of all alternatives.

My doctor left a message and wants me to call him tomorrow. So maybe this part of the safety net I've built for myself is working. At least I hope so. I don't think I owe my doctor any money at the moment. It's November and my wife and I just exceeded our health insurance deductible this year, as usual. The only thing we have to put up with for the next two months is our insurance company acting like they are doing us a huge favor maybe paying back a paltry 1/6 of what we've paid this year in premiums.

Three, maybe four, of my grandparents were alcoholics. The "maybe four" didn't drink for fear, having experienced too many Hollywood parties as a young person. One quit drinking because it interfered with his math skills and his mother-in-law said she'd shoot him if he drank anymore. (My great grandmothers were Wild West. This was no idle threat.) My crazy grandma drank, but that's not what killed her, it was the smoking. Nicotine was her primary self-medication. She'd have been crazy with or without alcohol or nicotine. I sometimes wonder if modern medicine might have helped her, but in her time mental illness was something to hide. Heck, it was something to hide when I was in college too. Nothing was written down, you just had a confidential talk with the college dean who recommended you take some time off... I was "asked" to leave school twice. The implied threat was permanent expulsion.

If you think some kind of alcoholics group will help, Locut0s, go for it. As a group I think alcoholics who've recognized they have a problem tend to be nicer people than the average sort.

When I'm in a bad place it's always the OCD and becoming-an-invisible-person that brings me down.

Current Free Cell games on this latest computer build: 7991
Current Wins: 7964

And I know every hair on my face 'cause I pull out those that are not quite right, especially when I'm feeling stressed.

Fortunately I have a couple of obsessions and compulsions that are a little bit more useful, and whenever I don't, our pack of dogs gets me out walking even when I'd rather be writing useless code or finding meaningless patterns in the ceiling plaster.