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uppityperson

(115,679 posts)
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 08:50 PM Feb 2012

'Personhood' bill dies in Virginia Senate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101459157
http://www.nbc12.com/story/17004134/personhood-bill-dies-in-senate
RICHMOND, VA (WWBT) - In a surprise vote the Virginia Senate has decided to refer the Personhood bill back to a Senate committee, which effectively kills the bill from consideration this year.

The Senate voted 24-14 against the controversial measure, which was widely criticized by pro-choice groups, thereby saving Gov. Bob McDonnell from having to make a difficult decision on the politically charged matter.

The Personhood bill would have defined life as starting at conception. The decision means the bill cannot be considered again until 2013.

Another controversial bill, requiring ultrasounds prior to abortions, was delayed. It could be voted upon as soon as Friday. That bill has also drawn scorn from women's groups, despite compromise measures proposed by Gov. McDonnell.
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'Personhood' bill dies in Virginia Senate (Original Post) uppityperson Feb 2012 OP
Thanks for your help. A temporary victory for the voice of sanity and reason Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #1

Brettongarcia

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1. Thanks for your help. A temporary victory for the voice of sanity and reason
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 06:18 AM
Feb 2012

Though?

Perhaps it would almost have been better if the sonogram bill had passed. And then, just before the election, we had called attention to the fact that the insertion of a sonogram wand, was technically, rape. So that we could note to the voter ,that conserative republicans had just legalized a kind of rape in the states they now control.

Though to be sure, we could not risk THIS law being enacted; not even once.

By the way though? An even worse sonogram law WAS recently passed in Texas, due to the Republican supermajority in both houses, and with the esteemed Rick Perry as governor. And we are currently opposing it; in part on the grounds that it is literally, by federal definition, rape.

The insertion of the sonogram wand, should make a good issue in the next election. Though of course, it is a horrible thing for women.

The sonogram law is best and most accurately characterized, as legalized, "Republican Rape."

Expect to hear more about this, the next time Rick Perry runs for governor of the state of Texas. If he dares.

In the meantime? Thanks again for your "uppity" insistence on following this one VERY carefully. It's still a very live issue, and will need the able attention of persons like yourself in the near future too. Right now, it looks like Republicans are backing down a bit; being continually outed as rapists just before an election was probably something they thought better of.

"Personhood" bills are a bit more subtle. Though? The Roe v. Wade decision, sec. IX etc, seems to have explicitly denied personhood status to the embryo. Thus state bills to the contrary, might be immediately suspended, pending constiutional review. Though, by successfully maniplating popular sentiment, it could have much effect on the vote. And if the majority of states pass such laws, this apparently presents some other even constitutional problems too.

Thanks a third time for your help on this one!

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