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fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 02:15 PM Apr 2013

At What Point in Pregnancy Does a Woman's Personhood End?

cross posted from gd at libodem's request

"I think the effort to restrict abortion has been a backlash, not just to the decision to end a pregnancy but the decision to treat women like full and equal participants in our society." That's the conclusion drawn by Lynn Paltrow, executive director of National Advocates for Pregnant Women, after years of working with women who've been incarcerated on charges of feticide or fetal homicide

At work while pregnant? Driving? Working with chemicals or heavy loads? You better know the legal code, says Paltrow. In many states, if something were to happen to your pregnancy that could be traced to your behavior, you could find yourself dragged into jail under fetal protection or personhood laws.

Even progressive interviewers will talk about personhood measures as if their only impact is going to be on abortion, says Paltrow. In fact, "We are talking about the status of women and whether you can add fertilized eggs, embryos and fetuses to the Constitution without subtracting pregnant women from it. You cannot."

A case in point is Bei Bei Shuai, who has been incarcerated for more than a year facing charges of murder and attempted feticide in Indiana after she attempted to take her own life while she was in her third trimester of pregnancy.


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At What Point in Pregnancy Does a Woman's Personhood End? (Original Post) fizzgig Apr 2013 OP
Before conception. n/t peace13 Apr 2013 #1
You would almost think so libodem Apr 2013 #2
Prior to that; at her own birth. marybourg Apr 2013 #3
That is why we have to fight back libodem Apr 2013 #4
. . .been fightin' since the early 70's. marybourg Apr 2013 #5
TX GOP will probably pass this anyway, but we won't stand down... oogiecatt Jul 2013 #8
Back again 40 yrs later, argh! oogiecatt Jul 2013 #9
k&r for wider exposure. I've been wondering when stuff like this would happen. uppityperson Apr 2013 #6
Never, of course. Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #7
I agree caf4265 Oct 2013 #10
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #11
What subject? fetal personhood? uppityperson Oct 2013 #12

libodem

(19,288 posts)
2. You would almost think so
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 02:32 PM
Apr 2013

The encroachment is frightening. These republican men seem to have nothing more important to legislate than denying women's control over their own bodies.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
4. That is why we have to fight back
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 01:14 PM
Apr 2013

The Republican brand seems hell bent on legislating morality by punishing our more unfortunate sisters with forced birth. It is barbaric and medieval.


Freaking sadistic hypocrites.


If men gave birth abortion would be a sacrament.

oogiecatt

(18 posts)
8. TX GOP will probably pass this anyway, but we won't stand down...
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:54 PM - Edit history (1)

Here is a video (from Daily Kos article) of one woman in Austin, TX speaking a little too much truth to the TX GOP. They are having a second special session to ram this down our throats and 'letting' us speak at the Capital. There was a record number for a rally Against all of this last week. Yesterday one of the TX GOP said the testimony was repetitive so a few tried to shake things up for them, guess they didn't appreciate the truth this woman had to share with them..
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/09/1222279/-Young-Woman-Has-EPIC-Rant-in-TX-Abortion-Hearings-Gets-Hauled-Off-By-State-Troopers.

This is an interview with her after she was hauled out for speaking the truth:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/09/1222326/-Interview-with-Victorian-Prude-the-woman-forcibly-removed-from-testifying-in-Texas

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