Welcome to the Pro-choice Group!

[PeaceNikki]

Currently seeking co-hosts for this group.

Please reply if interested.

[yellerpup]

1. I'm in for Pro-Choice!

[PeaceNikki]

2. <waves magic wand>

poof!! You are a host!

[yellerpup]

3. What are my responsibilities?

And perks? Hot tub, I hope. /;^)

[PeaceNikki]

4. Hosts can lock threads when the OP doesn't meet the forum's statement of purpose

They can't move threads (there is no thread moving in DU3) and they don't (as hosts) do anything about a thread's replies. They can ban users from groups and pin notes and add others as host. You will see a new "Super Power" link next to posts now to make it all work (this is, in the biz, your "magic wand" ) .

I don't have detailed info on perks but I sure hope there's a hot tub!!

Thanks for your help!

[yellerpup]

5. Thanks, PeaceNikki!

Will try to keep it clean and on point. (hot tub or no)

[CTyankee]

6. I will do what I can. I have a background in working for prochoice organizations.

The prochoice movement needs to go in a new direction organizationally. It has isolated itself from the court of public opinion for too long. And it, and we in it, are losing.

Let me know what is required to co-host this group...

[PeaceNikki]

7. Thanks! I've added you as co-host.

Basically, we're here to keep this a safe-haven for reproductive choice discussion. I don't expect much trouble, but if it's anything like the "Choice" forum was on DU2, we might get occasional riff-raff.

[CTyankee]

8. I read the email on my duties, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do on a daily basis.

Could you please let me know via pm?

[PeaceNikki]

9. Just keep an eye on this forum when you're on DU for posts/replies that deviate from our SOP.

And/or malicious intruders. It's not a super busy forum so they should float to the top quickly if/when they arrive!

[CTyankee]

10. And if I DO find a reply that deviates, what do I do?

Do I alert? Or what? and how?

[PeaceNikki]

11. If it's an OP, you can lock it. If should go to jury, send it with a TOS.

For example: if some troll came in here posting anti-choice rants, you can alert for community standards with TOS checked, lock the thread, and ban member from group.

You'd want to still send to jury with TOS to see if the member should be banned from DU altogether.

If (and I hope this doesn't happen) a long-time DUer comes in here to argue against choice, you can also ban them from the group. Alert at your discretion.

You will see a new "Super Power" link next to posts now to make it all work (this is, in the biz, your "magic wand" ) .

If at any point you want to discuss questions/questionable posters/posts with me or other hosts, please PM us!

I hope we don't have to use it, but it's there in case we do!

[CTyankee]

12. Sounds like the super powers button makes the day here!

OK, I will try my best to monitor this. I'm a little scared but I will try...

[Brettongarcia]

13. 100 religious, Catholic arguments for allowing abortion

I just wrote a 700-page book on this subject. Essentially, I found that especially, "Christian" antiabortionism does not really follow the Bible. More specifically, Catholic anti-abortionism does not follow the Catholic Church's real tradition.Pro-Life anti-abortionists don't really know the Bible, or the Church.

As it turns out,1) the Bible itself never mentioned abortion by name; while furthermore, if it alludes to it at all, it seems to have ordered priests to perform it, in Num. 5.15-30.But especially 2) Psalm 139 regarded the fetus in the womb as not yet "formed" enough, to be completely human; 3) an idea that was accepted and refined by St. Thomas Aquinas, the foremost theologian of the Church (1917 Canon, 589 1366). Who said that the young embryo could not be formed enough to accept a "soul," or human spirit.Or 4) as we would say today in science, the embryo's brain is not developed enough, to have the defining and distinguishing characteristic of human beings: a human intelligence or spirit.What does the Catholic Church really say on this subject? Given the finding of both Science and Theology, that the embryo is not really a full human being, recently 5) Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI, warned against putting too much, dis "proportionate" emphasis on abortion, in elections; concluding that voting for Pro-Choice, pro-abortion political candidates, "can be permitted" (Ratzinger/Benedict XVI, "Worthiness to Receive," footnote, 2004).More recently, 6) Cardinal McCarrick, former head of the USCCB, confirmed c. 2007 etc., that the fanatical, "one issue" Catholicism, that insists that we must always vote for the most anti-abortion candidate - that insists that God is ordering us to "vote Republican" in every election - was dis- "proportionate," imprudent, and wrong. Since it ignores many other, more important issues.

Anti-abortionists insist that the embryo is a human being; and that killing it is murder therefore; even mass murder, given the number of deaths involved. But a more careful study finds that the embryo is not a human being, according to science and theology. While in any case, there are other far more important issues, that involve many more deaths, if we neglect them.There are many more important issues than abortion. Like, as we add in our own book, Health Care; avoiding unjust and unnecessary wars. Especially important is avoiding environmental disasters. Like the plagues, floods that have historically (and biblically) already killed hundreds of millions of indisputably human beings. It is important to go past the narrow obsession with abortion; to consider the many other issues, disasters, that have already killed hundreds of millions - and that will kill even billions more. Unless we attend not just to the "one issue" of abortion; but to these other, more important issues, after all.There are many, many more important issues that should get our attention in elections, aside from the "one issue" of Abortion. As confirmed for Catholics, by the Pope and the saints, as it turns out. Or for that matter, as confirmed for all that call themselves Christian, by the Bible itself.Finally, surprisingly, it is only a better Theology that really shows us the truth.Who knew that Theology would turn out to be so important?God?

- Dr. Brettongarcia, Ph.D