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Fri May 31, 2013, 08:20 PM

How long do you have to be "smoke free" to be considered a NON smoker for The Affordable Care Act?

And does an E-Cig count as smoking in Obamacare?

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Reply How long do you have to be "smoke free" to be considered a NON smoker for The Affordable Care Act? (Original post)
krawhitham May 2013 OP
avaross09 Nov 2013 #1
PennyK Feb 2014 #2
krawhitham Feb 2014 #3
PennyK Feb 2014 #4
aikanae Apr 2014 #5
brewens May 2014 #6
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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:45 AM

1. How long do you have to be "smoke free" to be considered a NON smoker for The Affordable Care Act.

Until and unless you have never smoked or puffed a cigarette for a much longer time.If dont think so because E-cigarette contains vapour and has no effect as much as the nicotine is cigarette so i don't think so.

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:51 AM

2. Wrong question

I believe the site asks if you use tobacco products. Case closed!

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Response to PennyK (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:09 PM

3. Some states have passed laws saying E-Cigs ARE tobacco products

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:16 PM

4. It is wrong

The only ingredient that could even be a "tobacco derivative" is the pharmaceutical-grade nicotine used in the e-liquid, and it's in gum, patches, and lozenges, too. Are those called tobacco products?

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 05:55 AM

5. It's a blood test

I have heard reports of people vaping for 2 months and passing employer / insurance blood tests as "someone who lives with a smoker" = non-smoker.

A lot of people do not understand that vaping is NOT the same as smoking. The nicotine in eliquid is NOT a tobacco product. Nicotine is found in a wide variety of plants including tomatoes and eggplant.

It's political stupidity that considers vaping equal to smoking. There is no basis in science for it and fortunately, blood tests are based on science rather than arrogant ignorance.

This is one of those things that i would imagine fairly easy to do a study trial on and might clear up a lot of the questions about vaping vs. smoking - but it doesn't look like anyone has any intention of doing one.

I would reccomend asking in ECF since I know there are other's who are dealing with the same questions.

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 10:54 AM

6. I've been a "non smoker" for years as far as my insurance or anyone else knows.

IRL, I've been off the shit since November. I think this time it will stick.

Long before I really decided to quit, I quit leaving any trail. I only bought cigarettes with cash and never at one of those stores where you use a club card unless I made that purchse seperately at their convenience counter. I intended to quit soon for about the last five years. I'm not really all that paranoid about it but decided just in case to keep the tobacco purchases secret.

Now as long as I never smoke again, I should be able to claim having quit 5 1/2 years ago. There might be a pic or two with me smoking a cigar around but I don't think so. For all that time I rarely ever smoked at work, never did smoke while driving for the most part and probably was only seen smoking regurlarly in public at our local Eagles Lodge. If my insurance company some day digs any of that up to burn me with, I'll be surprised.

I suppose if the nicotine in ecig juice in normally extracted from tobacco, they will call it a tobacco product.

I didn't use anything to quit. I just gutted it out. I kept thinking if anyone could, it should be me. It honestly didn't bother me at all to go all day every day at work not smoking. I'd have a few before I took a shower and then not smoke until I got home. It wasn't that hard at all. What will be hard is down the road when I think I'm in the clear. It's happened before. Out of the blue comes and irrisistable urge to smoke! Then I've thought I had it kicked for awhile and my guard is down. It's just like major nicotine withdrawl when that shouldn't even be possible. It must be like the phantom pain amputees get. Months with no nicotine and the nicotine Jones comes back with a vengence! Hopefully I'll be ready for that this time and hold on and let it pass.

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