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Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 08:56 AM Jul 2020

Neem oil -- banned in the UK. Are their studies valid?

I have been using Neem oil in the garden and now I'm reading that it's banned in the U.K. because it's a threat to pregnancy. Does anyone have information on this subject?

Why is Neem oil banned in UK?
Neem oil exposure may cause abortion or lead to infertility, and it may cause liver damage in children. Pesticides containing neem oil (Azadirachtin) are banned in the UK.Sep 9, 2016

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Neem oil -- banned in the UK. Are their studies valid? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 OP
organic/natural does NOT equal safe Kali Jul 2020 #1
Toxicity Ptah Jul 2020 #2
I just want to poison/smother the scale bugs that are sucking the juice out of my magnolias Backseat Driver Jul 2020 #3
Have you tried insecticidal soap? Ponietz Jul 2020 #6
Thanks for the recipe. What pests does this work for mahina Sep 2020 #10
Horticultural oil works on scale insects in the crawler stage. yellowcanine Jul 2020 #7
Horticultural oils aren't always neem Major Nikon Jul 2020 #8
I don't think it is banned commercially Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #4
Maybe this site will help a bit... WePurrsevere Jul 2020 #5
Oh thanx - missed that one! I'll definitely read up! Backseat Driver Jul 2020 #9

Ptah

(33,024 posts)
2. Toxicity
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 10:01 AM
Jul 2020
Toxicity
The ingestion of neem oil is potentially toxic and can cause metabolic acidosis, seizures, kidney failure, encephalopathy and severe brain ischemia in infants and young children . Neem oil should not be consumed alone without any other solutions, particularly by pregnant women, women trying to conceive, or children. It can also be associated with allergic contact dermatitis.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neem_oil#Toxicity

Backseat Driver

(4,390 posts)
3. I just want to poison/smother the scale bugs that are sucking the juice out of my magnolias
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 10:20 AM
Jul 2020

I'm not likely to consume the oil or eat magnolia leaves and stems and long past a pregnancy, so maybe? So is it an effective and safe bug asphixicant? It's coming up on those suckers "crawler" stage - now just to order up a gallon or so and get the timing correct. Any idea what would work better?

Ponietz

(2,961 posts)
6. Have you tried insecticidal soap?
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jul 2020

Last edited Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:49 PM - Edit history (1)

1/4 cup vegetable oil
Teaspoon dish soap
4 cups water

A hand sprayer works 👍🏼

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
7. Horticultural oil works on scale insects in the crawler stage.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:48 AM
Jul 2020

It is safer than any pesticide, "natural" or otherwise.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. Horticultural oils aren't always neem
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jul 2020

Many contain harmless oils that work by coating the insect and smothering it.

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