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IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:14 PM Apr 2013

A Gentle Defense of Chows

Here's the text of what I consider a polite email I sent to the author of a fine book, The New Encyclopedia of Dogs.
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Dear Dr. Fogle,

Stranded in a tiny remote village in northeast ****, USA, where I retired for financial reasons, I don't get much tv. I could afford a satellite dish, but then I couldn't afford to care for my dogs who are far more important. However, I have no doubt I'd love your tv show as well as I do the cancelled dog encyclopedia I bought at a library sale today. The information and photography are wonders to behold.

However, please forgive me that I must take slight issue with your description of the ChowChow on page 181, where you write that he seldom pays attention to anyone but himself.

Nothing could be farther from the truth. I've lived with these dogs, really the best in the world, for much of my life so although not a professional, I do have room to offer correction on that one matter. I'll admit that they tend to be what might be called 'energy efficient', but they still watch everything that goes on around them with great care.

My last two, littermate sisters Joy and Freedom, lived the first eight years of their lives on an isolated horse farm in Arizona where they excelled in hunting, both individually and together. They killed snakes and any vermin. One would start to dig at the entrance to a prairie dog burrow while the other waited at the exit, ready to pounce. When I finally retired and moved to this flyspeck town in *****, I put up a fence around the entire property so they could be outdoors as much as they wanted, when they wanted - which was most of the time. They tried their best to catch a squirrel, though I don't think they ever quite managed.

Most of all, they quietly kept close watch on neighborhood comings and goings. Okay, they did fake sleep a lot, but if anyone slowed down in front of the house or so much as touched the front gate, Joy and Freedom leapt into action and raced over to 'greet' them with a warning stare, followed by bared teeth if the first hint failed.

Last June 15 I finally had to have them put down when they were well into their 16th year, and it nearly killed me. But I never even bothered to lock my doors or windows at night, knowing they were in the house with me and nothing could stir outside their knowledge. Best of all, the alpha, Freedom, would give me her nightly report (or something) as soon as I announced bedtime. She'd stand next to me and bark sociably at least 5 minutes without fail. Since I stick to landline phones, I even had to keep them well out of her reach; otherwise she'd knock the receiver off and bark sociably at it, probably trying to rouse the person who was supposed to be on the other end of the line. She never did grasp dialing, I'll admit.

Just because Chows are quiet and observant, decorous though lavish with their affection, does not mean "they seldom pay attention to anything but themselves." That sentence, dear Doctor, is unworthy of you."
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Hope I didn't sound like a crank. But I couldn't let that misinformation go unchallenged.

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A Gentle Defense of Chows (Original Post) IrishAyes Apr 2013 OP
Sometimes, we just have to speak up. Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #1
My favorite line is... Phentex Apr 2013 #2
You didn't sound like a crank at all! blaze Apr 2013 #3
Absolutely gorgeous! IrishAyes Apr 2013 #8
Oh my gosh KC Apr 2013 #12
NO, that's a lovely letter get the red out Apr 2013 #4
Well, the author IrishAyes Apr 2013 #6
I love Chows! I have two in my life. Lady, a beautiful red Chow... Walk away Apr 2013 #5
Always love to meet another Chow person IrishAyes Apr 2013 #7
I'm glad you found some pocket rockets to keep you company! Walk away Apr 2013 #9
Thanks for the link IrishAyes Apr 2013 #10
Hooray! Enjoy! Walk away Apr 2013 #11
I am glad you have them get the red out Apr 2013 #13
I have a choweiler... Phentex Apr 2013 #14
The same with the Chow/Rotti girl I know Walk away Apr 2013 #15

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. Sometimes, we just have to speak up.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:25 PM
Apr 2013

Don't worry about what this author will think of you.....you said what you had to say. And it was something that needed said.

Let us know if you hear back.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
2. My favorite line is...
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:52 PM
Apr 2013
OK they did fake sleep a lot.


I love chows! I didn't realize anyone thought of them as self-absorbed.

I think it's a good letter and I'm curious to see if you get a response.

blaze

(6,361 posts)
3. You didn't sound like a crank at all!
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 10:19 PM
Apr 2013

I've heard them described as aloof... I'd be a bit more inclined to described them as a bit cat-like.

I've had two full blood chows and a couple of mixes... and my two full blood chows were quite a bit different. The one I have now is very friendly and curious and likes to sit on my feet and sleeps with his head on the pillow next to me. And he's always delighted when my neighbor comes over for a visit. Magilla has a way off half barking or grumbling... when he wants my attention. It's pretty funny actually.

So yes. I think your letter was quite justified!! Here's my Magilla Gorilla.

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IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
8. Absolutely gorgeous!
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 05:42 PM
Apr 2013

I'm jealous. He could've served as a model for the "Chow Likker License" tee I bought.

Give him a big hug from me.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
4. NO, that's a lovely letter
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:55 AM
Apr 2013

Chows are beautiful dogs, though I don't know much about them. I am glad to read a description from someone who has lived with them so long.

Your letter reminds me of how scared I got when we first got our dog, a Border Collie mix, from the shelter as a puppy. I would have been better off if I hadn't gone searching for information about Border Collies because what I read online made me fear we would not be a good home for this dog we loved. The descriptions were extreme so far as exercise requirements and energy are concerned. There may be BCs that are so driven that they tear out the drywall of the house if they don't run full out for hours a day (like so much I read online); but that's not our dog, nor any BC mix or purebred I have encountered since (and I have run into quite a few since taking up agility as a hobby).

I think that a lot of dog information out there right now is edging toward the extreme. It may be well intentioned to make sure that someone who really is NOT a fit for a particular type/breed of dog does not get them, but it seems to get repeated by "sources" over and over and often gets skewed over time.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
6. Well, the author
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 05:27 PM
Apr 2013

is apparently a bigtime vet and tv personality w/his own show, so I expected better from him than the average man on the street. It's especially disturbing when prominent professionals dole out such twaddle. BTW, congratulations on your BC's. They're ideally suited to agility trials.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
5. I love Chows! I have two in my life. Lady, a beautiful red Chow...
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 12:22 PM
Apr 2013

who was adopted by my friend Alan along with her gorgeous daughter, a red Chow Rottweiler mix. She starts out a little shy but as soon as she realizes that you aren't going to eat her, she is the cuddliest, sweetest couch muffin in the world. The other is Ella. Another adopted baby and a real stunner! People turn their heads to look at her and she prances along like a lady. She love kids and will play all day with them as well as the Pomeranian she lives with. She's great with horses too.

Yes, they are old souls and they have deep relationships with their "Person" but they are also smart and funny and playful and very beautiful. Chow rescue always has great dogs and often puppies!

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
7. Always love to meet another Chow person
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 05:39 PM
Apr 2013

I would've gone for another set when I found myself dogless, but I'm getting old enough to worry about what might happen to any such furkids if tragedy struck me. Around here they'd be put down for sure. The vet loves them but he can't foster every orphaned dog he encounters, especially the big eaters he knows would be unlikely to get adopted and almost certain to eat him out of house and home.

So my thought was to get much smaller dogs that might stand a snowball's chance if I left before they did. Molly Maguire, a mini beagle/pom mix, and Brigid, a stray puppy who looks purebred Jack Russell, are the sweetest little dogs in the world even though they will bark at least in greeting when anyone approaches. All I really need is a reliable alarm system, not guard dogs anymore. The whole town acts daffy over them, perhaps in relief because I didn't get more chows. And the rescue activist who brought them to me is well dug in here, so she should be around if needed further; and she's half my age, so I expect she'll outlive me too.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
9. I'm glad you found some pocket rockets to keep you company!
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 06:12 PM
Apr 2013

I grew up with large dogs but I ended up making my life's work with little dogs. They are tons of fun and they have no idea that they are small!

If you have some time visit my YouTube channel. It's a Little Dog extravaganza!
http://www.youtube.com/user/bethpets?feature=mhee

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
10. Thanks for the link
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 06:29 PM
Apr 2013

I'll visit ASAP - but right now I have to go feed those two pocket rockets. The people who brought Brigid to the rescue folks in Indiana said she was a stray, and somewhere along the line somebody declared her a boxer/rat terrier mix - but she's at least pet grade pure JRT from her looks. On arrival she stood 8 or 9" at the shoulder and weighed less than 4 lbs; I didn't expect her to last the night. But she's really thriving now. Luckily she and Molly Maguire love each other to pieces. Taking in a second rescue for Molly's playmate turned out to be one of the best decisions of my life. Each fell in instant love with the other.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
13. I am glad you have them
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 05:13 AM
Apr 2013

At this point, I would not want to be without a dog. On aging, when we had to get my Mom into assisted living we found one that allows pets so she could keep her elderly Papillion with her. This has been a huge help in her adjustment to her new situation. The little dog is 15 and still races to the door of her apartment to greet me and demand scratches.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
14. I have a choweiler...
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 10:46 AM
Apr 2013

he thinks he is a tiny dog...lots of spatial issues, lol.

People with other dogs always approach us like he's going to eat their heads off but they don't realize he is looking at them the same way.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
15. The same with the Chow/Rotti girl I know
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 03:30 PM
Apr 2013

I can honestly say that she is one of the brightest and most beautiful dogs I know. She is super friendly and incredibly well trained (I helped!). When I first adopted my Little Henry (see my icon) I used to walk Henry in the middle and Greta and Lady on either side. Three leashes in two fingers.

At first people would be frightened by a red Rottweiler with gold eyes but when I would have all three of them do their tricks at the same time, everybody wanted her. Go to the Pound for the best dogs!

She's an old lady now but she is still a Queen.

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