Pets
Related: About this forumdr handsome is pretty grown up
as big as his big sister, and about twice as wide now.
and mr biff looks more bully every day.
ceile
(8,692 posts)what a cutie! how much more will he grow?
mopinko
(70,021 posts)his daddy weighs almost 100lb. don't expect him to get that big, tho. he is already neutered, plus i am not working to bulk him up like they do with the show dogs. 80lb is likely, tho.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)so cute
mopinko
(70,021 posts)are victorian bulldogges, aka designer mutt, pretty close to boxers.
Sanity Claws
(21,841 posts)I've never heard of Victorian Bulldogges. Is a mix of boxer and something else? if yes, what else?
mopinko
(70,021 posts)there are olde victorians and olde english, as well as a couple other sorts that are basically attempts to undo the trainwreck that is the modern english bulldog. different lines have used different dogs, american bulls are common, boxers, mastiffs, some do pitts, others wouldn't with a gun to their heads.
but the main idea is to breed a dog that fits the standard for the english bull that first became a pet dog after bull baiting was barred in england. at that time the dogs were scattered all over europe, and were shaped into boxers and others, including american bulls.
biff and doc share a dad, but have different moms. both look exactly like their moms. doc's mom still shows the mastiff that was added, although you could easily pass her off as a fawn boxer. about boxer size, although a little more round. biff's mom is a pretty bully bully.
they are bred for health and temperament above all, and a sweeter pair of dogs you would never find. my vet says that biff does not show any of the really serious defects of the english today, with the possible exception of being a snorer. they will look at his palette when he is fixed and can correct it if it is abnormal.
the dogs must also breed freely and give birth naturally. corkscrew tails are strongly discouraged, as there is usually other misalignments elsewhere in the spine. the standard is what they call a pump handle tail, which the boys both have. extreme pushed face is also not allowed. they must have a 1" stop on the muzzle.
tmi?
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)that he was a little pup!!!! He is getting very handsome though.
mopinko
(70,021 posts)day before, max.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Man, they grow so damn fast! Biff certainly doesn't look anything close to the little blue eyed hampster any more. I also think he's going to end up being quite the stocky fellow of the two brothers. He already looks like a little bruiser... he just needs a hardhat and an old fashioned metal lunch pail. LOL!
99Forever
(14,524 posts).. what beautiful pair they are. Kind a much larger version of Frenchies, by the look of them. Such faces!
There's just something about bulldogs that makes me happy. Our Frenchies are the sweetest and most loving pups I've ever owned.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I always get the French and English ones mixed up. I'm pretty sure it's the English ones that are big and really physically messed up, so are the French ones the sort of pint sized bulldogs without so much of the physical problems?
Ugh. Now I have to google photos to figure this out or it will bug the hell out of me all day. I'm like that. I blame it on aging (good excuse as any). The reallly big things I don't bother worrying about but the little stupid things like this or putting the icecube trays back in the freezer without refilling them or discovering the toilet paper or paper towels are hung backwards make me nutso.
On Edit... Ah ha! The Frenchies are the mini version with the huge "wing span" ears! Whew... Now I feel much better!
99Forever
(14,524 posts)One health issue they can still share is small nostrils making breathing difficult for some of them. We had minor surgery to open them up done when the boys were in to be neutered. It helped a lot.