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Sat May 8, 2021, 11:01 PM

*Daughter just called, said dog (...doodle) had 'massive seizure,'

taking to vet now; scared, of course.

Anyone with experience?

Thanks

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Reply *Daughter just called, said dog (...doodle) had 'massive seizure,' (Original post)
elleng May 8 OP
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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:05 PM

1. None, except don't give up hope

If things persist, contact the nearest vet school...they are amazing between the professors/teachers and the students in taking care of pups and kits that everyone else gives up on.

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Response to MerryHolidays (Reply #1)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:09 PM

2. Thanks.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:10 PM

3. I wish I could impart some knowledge

I know nothing, but I did go do a quick read at this site:

https://pets.webmd.com/dogs/dog-seizure-disorders#2

I hope he's okay, and his family too (including you).

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Response to Rorey (Reply #3)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:16 PM

5. Thanks, did check webmd.

They're 200 miles away. HOPE not serious/hope diagnosed soon.

Seems the kids, 5 and 7, are away tonight, so when they return to celebrate Mother's Day, who knows? Could be a stressful time.

I'll be with my OTHER daughter and her 2 kids tomorrow, but thinking of 'George!'

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Response to elleng (Reply #5)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:39 PM

20. Grandpets

We worry about those grandpets. I think I get way too attached to mine.

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Response to Rorey (Reply #20)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:41 PM

21. Yes, George is sweet, large and soft.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:15 PM

4. Not with dogs... Our last cat had a handful of seizures in the weeks before her passing.

She was 15+ years old and had diabetes and kidney failure already, so the vet didn't recommend anything except making her comfortable and giving her an anti seizure med... There wasn't much point in trying to treat the underlying cause at that point.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #4)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:18 PM

7. Thanks. George isn't THAT old, not very old at all;

I must assume their vet knows what s/he's doing.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:17 PM

6. Yes!

My most recent beloved Sheltie princess developed a seizure disorder.

When she was older, around 11, she progressed into gran mal seizures. Terrifying.

Initially, she would have small seizures, largely brought on by being in the heat.

With her small seizures, if I caught the onset early, it seemed giving her frozen green beans helped to bring her back from the brink.

Also, afterwards, even with small seizures, she would have an "aura" after. For her, it manifested as terror of her large water bowl.

She was not on meds until later in life.

The danger is with tremendous heat resulting from uncontrolled seizure activity.

She had a bad episode while my daughter was at work. She rushed her to an emergency ICU vet where shd received 1 on 1 care 24/7 for a week or so, to the tune of >$5k.

Afterwards, she needed go relearn how to walk. She only lived about 3 more months. Her time came on xmas day & vet helped her to the Bridge.

Diet can be a factor, as can antiparasitics. Was dog exposed to Seresto collar??? Biggie!

I hope this was helpful. Please feel free to pm if you have questions.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #6)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:22 PM

8. THANKS, Sheltie!

Yes helpful. I don't know about the collar.

So they can give meds generally to handle? This is the first that I'm aware of, and I think George is 'only' around 6 years old.

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Response to elleng (Reply #8)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:30 PM

13. Yes, they can rx meds to help control, but no guarantee

That there will never be another seizure.

My vet told me if she had severe seizure, to put cool water on paws to help bring down temp.

Every seizure damages parts of the brain, sadly.

I was fortunate to have a houngster with mild autism frequently around who could "hear her brain getting ready to misfire," so that definitely helped!

Healing vibes in the way to pupers & your family. I know the big seizures left me exceptionally traumatized. Lots of foaming at mouth, etc. Very hard to watch. 💔💗💗💗

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #13)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:33 PM

16. Thanks again.

Sorry to be so far away from my NJ family; haven't seen them since???

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:23 PM

9. I have had several

dogs with seizures. Right now my big sweetie has horrible, hard and long seizures. He has gone from a short but hard seizure to having a very long one with a short minute rest then another. It kills me, so hard to watch. He is on meds, we may need to raise the dosage.

I have had 4 dogs over my long life with multiple dogs. It is never easy and so hard to watch. If there was one thing I could tell her that the vet may not it is this, if they are like people they do not remember the seizure. It is best to stay away and let them recover through the confusion and they will come to you once they remember where they are. My heart goes out to her, it is so hard to see.

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Response to MuseRider (Reply #9)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:26 PM

11. Thanks. Yes, she sounded terrified.

Then was driving to vet, so we all wait, now.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:24 PM

10. One more aspect

Once more serious seizures developed, vet provided suppositories, maybe valium or something similar to use immediately when seizure would start.

Very difficult go insert when body is contorting.

I believe the suppositories had to be compounded, so it takes time to get them. I was fortunate in that a previous client had had them made & donated to the vet.

Im so sorry your family is going through this.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #10)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:26 PM

12. OYE!

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Response to elleng (Reply #12)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:31 PM

14. ...

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Response to elleng (Reply #12)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:33 PM

15. Vet said any seizure is bad, but at 10 min mark, dog is in serious danger

Again largely because of the extreme heat generated.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #15)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:34 PM

17. Gotcha.

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Response to elleng (Reply #17)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:36 PM

18. Do they have a good vet & emergency clinic?

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #18)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:38 PM

19. Apparently they have an emergency something,

and I hope their regular vet is 'good.' I have no way to tell.

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Response to elleng (Reply #19)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:53 PM

22. All paws crossed here!

The ICU clinic my daughter used was one with a stellar reputation & had saved another friend's dog's life with a complex dx & emergency surgery.

They might want to do research in their area to find the best available nearby, as every second counts.

Ps - I wonder if CDB can help to control the disorder? Just a thought.

Also, here is link to American Histic Vet Assn.

Members must be licensed vets, then take extra certifications such as acupuncture, homeopathy, herbs, chiropractic, etc.

https://www.ahvma.org/find-a-holistic-veterinarian/

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #22)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:57 PM

24. Thanks!

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Response to elleng (Reply #24)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:58 PM

25. Yw, Ellen!

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:56 PM

23. When our labradoodle was about 3 she had a seizure.

After it happened she looked confused and regained her balance, then seemed fine. The vet told us we could take her to the emergency clinic or just take her in to see her the next day, which is what we chose. The vet gave her phenobarbital. That drug seemed to make her groggy. After several months my husband reduced the medication because we didnít like what it did to the dog. After speaking with the vet she said that dosage really wasnít doing anything and to just take her off it. About 7 years went by and no other seizures. Then suddenly she had another one. After that, no more. We never did find any cause for the seizures.

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Response to badhair77 (Reply #23)

Sat May 8, 2021, 11:58 PM

26. Thanks, interesting (and inconclusive.)

Yes, George is a labradoodle, around 6 years old.

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Response to elleng (Reply #26)

Sun May 9, 2021, 12:08 AM

27. We tried to find a pattern, like food or something in the yard

but could not track anything. Watching the seizure is very unsettling. Sorry I couldnít give you more information, just that she went years without more seizures, then they returned. We chose the chance of a seizure over the medication because it made her a different dog. She seemed spaced out and confused on the meds.

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Response to badhair77 (Reply #27)

Sun May 9, 2021, 12:17 AM

28. Thanks, will see wassup 'later,'

as George and my daughter are 200 miles from me, and obviously busy with other things.

I'll send her your response to me (when she's in a position to digest it,) due to similarities.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sun May 9, 2021, 12:54 AM

29. Our Schnauzer had seizures

and it turned out she had developed Diabetes. We found that the best was to treat her quickly was to pour Karo corn syrup into her mouth. Schnauzers are prone to this disease.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #29)

Sun May 9, 2021, 12:56 AM

30. Thanks. Didn't know that about schnauzers,

and Karo syrup!

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sun May 9, 2021, 01:40 AM

31. Depends what caused it.

A friendís dog was having occasional seizures, ended up being able to keep them at bay through a diet reccíd by a holistic/naturopathic-oriented DVM.

Best of luck to both of them. Hope itís easy to resolve and Doodleís ok. ❤️

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sun May 9, 2021, 04:03 AM

32. When they got old both my dog Jason and my cat Luke had seizures. Both went on meds

for the rest of their lives.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sun May 9, 2021, 06:04 AM

33. Hope pup is well

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Sun May 9, 2021, 11:13 AM

34. Lots. 2 seizure dogs. Canine Epilepsy is not a death sentence. My 2 dogs lived into their teens

DM me later today, I'll share info
My heart dog had his first seizure at 9 months old, second dog came to me with known seizures, his first human was dying, she made sure he had a safe place after she went on ahead

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Mon May 10, 2021, 09:25 PM

35. Update? n/t

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Response to billh58 (Reply #35)

Mon May 10, 2021, 09:30 PM

36. Thanks for asking. Nothing FIRM,

but he went home with my daughter Saturday night/Sunday morning, from vet, after having blood drawn, and he's behaving 'as normal.' Waiting to hear from vet about results.

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Response to elleng (Reply #36)

Mon May 10, 2021, 09:43 PM

37. Thanks for the update

and relieved to hear that Doodle(?) is better. Best wishes to you and your daughter.

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Response to billh58 (Reply #37)

Mon May 10, 2021, 09:45 PM

38. George seems to be fine, and my daughter appears to have recovered from the ordeal.

KNOCK ON WOOD!

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Response to elleng (Reply #38)

Mon May 10, 2021, 09:48 PM

39. Great news

and a belly rub for George...

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Response to billh58 (Reply #39)

Mon May 10, 2021, 09:50 PM

40. LOTS of them, I'm sure, and 'all the treats he wants,' she said!

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