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Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:10 PM

So I got to thinking about something today

I had mistakenly taken the apathy of, to the deaths of Syrians, Iraqis, and others to some sort of racism. I got to thinking of WWII, and the complete and total war, that Europe waged on each other. It doesnt have anything to do with race. Humans dont just have much empathy to other humans. The firebombings of Dresden, the indiscriminate bombings of London, and other European cities throughout the war.

I hope our children are paying attention.

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Separation Oct 2018 OP
RKP5637 Oct 2018 #1
vlyons Oct 2018 #2
Separation Oct 2018 #4
appalachiablue Oct 2018 #3
Separation Oct 2018 #5
appalachiablue Oct 2018 #8
KT2000 Oct 2018 #9
JayhawkSD Oct 2018 #12
TreasonousBastard Oct 2018 #6
KT2000 Oct 2018 #7
Separation Oct 2018 #10
CaptainTruth Oct 2018 #11
MicaelS May 2019 #13

Response to Separation (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:13 PM

1. I hope to hell this species doesn't eventually colonize other planets. Humans need to

be confined to earth, which they are destroying. And they kill each other off. WTF...

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Response to Separation (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:17 PM

2. We see others as "other"

as "they, them, those." From the Buddhist perspective, we think with a dualistic mind of object - subject, us - them. We are not taught that we've all interconnected. We all live together on the same planet. We are not deeply taught from childhood to be motivated to generate compassion for others.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:26 PM

4. Dang

I Think that line of thinking is gonna have me look into Buhdism some. 👍🏻

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Response to Separation (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:25 PM

3. If the basic nature of humans isn't clear by now, someone's

living under rocks. The pursuit of resources and property, aggression and self interest have and will always be the dominant motivator in humans.

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:28 PM

5. People sure do like to pretend otherwise

Or is that part of human nature too?

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Response to Separation (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:47 PM

8. Humans are able to justify, ignore and deny many negatives.

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:49 PM

9. Self interest yes, but aggression

is separate I believe. Ex., the R's believe they are meeting their self interest by excluding others and securing everything for themselves. They arm themselves for their own safety in their competitive, aggressive world.

The D's believe they are meeting self interest by making sure the society serves all and therefore mitigates the possibility of aggression and fear.

Overly simplified but I believe this is the basic difference.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 16, 2018, 01:16 AM

12. Oh, please.

 

Who bombed Libya into failed state status?

I'm a Democrat, but let's not be kidding ourselves.

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Response to Separation (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:36 PM

6. Nature, given enough time, has ways to evolve controls for aggressive species...

It seems in the short amount of time we've been around the only control for us is ourselves.

Racism is only one aspect of our tribalism. Just like honeybees and chimpanzees, we our own hives and tribes from outsiders.

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Response to Separation (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:45 PM

7. we are protecting ourselves with myths

there comes a time in many peoples' lives where lack of empathy from friends and family is tested and comes up short. People with chronic illnesses that are not well understood learn this lesson. A show of empathy has an expiration date - about 3 months. Then the chronically ill are left behind by some. Same can be said for people grieving the loss of a loved one for an extended period.

That people in close proximity can do this, speaks volumes about countries that regard other countries as enemies. Not much mercy.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:58 PM

10. As said above

Its probably an evolutionary failsafe.

After edit: I misunderstood above post. I guess I'm saying it can be used as an evolutionary failsafe for the human species

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Response to Separation (Original post)

Tue Oct 16, 2018, 01:03 AM

11. I understand... it's like some people don't care about their fellow human beings.

I truly cannot understand that ... we're all on this same planet together.

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Response to Separation (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 02:15 PM

13. It's tribalism, and I think it is hardwired into us.

One can take either an evolutionary viewpoint, or a biblical viewpoint. People evolved / started in small groups, and thus was born the Us v Them mindset. I am not saying it is impossible to change, I just think it is very hard for many to do so.

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