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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:32 PM Apr 2012

Shady Companies With Ties to Israel Wiretap the U.S. for the NSA

Despite the post-9/11 warrantless wiretapping of Americans, the NSA says that citizens should trust it not to abuse its growing power and that it takes the Constitution and the nation’s privacy laws seriously.

But one of the agency’s biggest secrets is just how careless it is with that ocean of very private and very personal communications, much of it to and from Americans. Increasingly, obscure and questionable contractors — not government employees — install the taps, run the agency’s eavesdropping infrastructure, and do the listening and analysis.

And with some of the key companies building the U.S.’s surveillance infrastructure for the digital age employing unstable employees, crooked executives, and having troubling ties to foreign intelligence services, it’s not clear that Americans should trust the secretive agency, even if its current agency chief claims he doesn’t approve of extrajudicial spying on Americans. His predecessor, General Michael V. Hayden, made similar claims while secretly conducting the warrantless wiretapping program.

Until now, the actual mechanics of how the agency constructed its highly secret U.S. eavesdropping net, code-named Stellar Wind, has never been revealed. But in the weeks following 9/11, as the agency and the White House agreed to secretly ignore U.S. privacy laws and bypass the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, J. Kirk Wiebe noticed something odd. A senior analyst, he was serving as chief of staff for the agency’s Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center (SARC), a sort of skunkworks within the agency where bureaucratic rules were broken, red tape was cut, and innovation was expected.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/04/shady-companies-nsa/all/1


Not sure if this was already posted, but I just saw this...

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think

(11,641 posts)
3. Will America just let this shit go on? (It's a rhetorical question)
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:03 PM
Apr 2012

Of course they will.

With smiles on their faces and waving their flags they'll salute the wasting of trillions of dollars on security and defense only to be spied upon as the enemy of the United States government by some unknown Israeli citizens who have more authority over their lives then they do themselves.

Just smile wave everyone. Smile and wave....

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
4. This goes back to the '95 CALEA law when Israeli firms had a monopoly on this technology
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:33 PM
Apr 2012

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midnight

(26,624 posts)
5. Yes... The article points that out. But while using technology from foreign countries is not new
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:42 PM
Apr 2012

farming out our spying might be to those who didn't know this....


"But one of the agency’s biggest secrets is just how careless it is with that ocean of very private and very personal communications, much of it to and from Americans. Increasingly, obscure and questionable contractors — not government employees — install the taps, run the agency’s eavesdropping infrastructure, and do the listening and analysis."

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
6. If you believe what has been written about Echelon, "farming out" was the basis of the UKUSA
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:02 AM
Apr 2012

Agreement. Once upon a time, before the PATRIOT Act, we had our allies read our communications, and we read theirs, as a way around prohibitions on domestic spying. Now, since the 4th Amendment has been scrapped, that isn't really much of a consideration. But, we still farm it out, and one of the farm teams is Israel - which is why Lieberman and AIPAC were such strong backers of the 2008 FISA Amendment that legalized most of these domestic spying practices.

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