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BlueMTexpat

(15,368 posts)
2. There is some truth in what Hillary said.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:40 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/11/11208192/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids

What does seem to be true is that when the Reagan administration eventually did decide to respond to the AIDS crisis, Nancy Reagan was among the influential administration figures pushing for that decision.

"I think that she deserves credit for opening up the AIDS money," historian Allida Black told PBS in 2011, saying that along with Koop the first lady pressed the president and the secretary of health and human services to allocate research funding to HIV/AIDS issues.

"But," Black continued, "I could never say that without saying they never would have waited this long" if not for the perception that the disease was a problem for gay men.

In the same PBS segment, Nancy's son, Ron Reagan, likewise portrays his mother as an important progressive force on AIDS issues inside the Reagan administration.


Just sayin' ...

BlueMTexpat

(15,368 posts)
4. If you are determined to
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:45 PM
Mar 2016

attribute nefarious motives to everything that Hillary says and does, there is literally nothing I can do that will change that.

Buh-bye.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
5. You must not read my posts, I could not be further from that characterization.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

I am the one who called out the poster who accused the Clinton's of election fraud, for one example.

There are MANY others

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
11. Finally, an explanation I can understand.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:06 AM
Mar 2016

And if Ron Jr. says it, I believe it.

Nevertheless, how utterly tone deaf. Not thinking that family and the 1% may know this, but we peons don't.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
6. Airheaded clotheshorse Princess Diana did more to destigmatize AIDS than almost anyone.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

She used her fame and the paparazzi that surrounded her to show that people with AIDS could be touched and hugged and treated as suffering humans rather than pariahs. She did the same for the cause of landmine clearance.

Yes, Di had real flaws and limitations, and she was self-absorbed, immature, and desperate for attention, but she had a good heart and tried to use her fame to spotlight worthy causes. She was ill-used by her husband and his family.

Meanwhile, airhead clotheshorse Nancy Reagan promoted the disastrous "Just Say No" campaign as a proper substitute for a sane, effective drug policy.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
7. Wait, I REMEMBER that ad or show where she talked to us about how it is OK to hug
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:03 PM
Mar 2016

someone with HIV.

I remember at the time thinking "Good, did not know that"

I think most people were ignorant about it back then.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
8. Her insistence at talking up the Reagans and Kissinger... it puzzles me.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:13 PM
Mar 2016

There's absolutely no Democratic constituency that is going to see that and be impressed. But there's very definitely a Democratic constituency that sees it and is fucking repulsed by it.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
9. Was thinking about that just a minute ago. Unless she thinks there are some
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

middle roaders who will take that as good.

Most of those people dont know who Kissinger is, probably, and also dont care either way about the HIV issue.


It is tough to understand, what I do know is as bad as she is sometimes, she will get my vote if nominated.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
10. She might believe the bogus theory that "moderates" actually occupy some kind of middle.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:24 PM
Mar 2016

All the Very Serious People of the political establishment have been flogging that nonsense theory for decades.

What the Establishment likes to call "moderates" are much more accurately described as "low information voters." So, yes, these people are unlikely to know who Kissinger is. I've never met a Democrat in my life who knew who Kissinger was, and didn't hate him.

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