It's Official - The Backlash is HERE.

[jpak]

Last edited Sat Jan 19, 2013, 06:29 PM - Edit history (1)

The nation is fed up with dumbass GOP/ALEC/NRA gun laws.

Guns in schools.

Guns in bars.

Guns in church.

Guns in public buildings.

They are sick of stupid Stand Your Ground and "Castle" laws that legalize murder.

They are sick of the regularity of assault weapon massacres.

They are sick of the NRA.

President Barack Hussein Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden stood up to the asshole blood-drenched big-money GOP Gun Nut Lobby and presented them with a HUGH....

FUCK YOU

Bravo Mr. President.

Bravo Mr. Vice President

yup

[hack89]

1. Better add Senate Democrats to your FUCK YOU list.

Washington (CNN) -- Unlike most issues these days that divide along party lines, the immediate fate of President Obama's new gun proposals will depend not as much on Republicans as his fellow Democrats in the Senate.

Senate Democratic leadership sources tell CNN that passing any new legislation will be extremely difficult because more than a dozen vulnerable Democrats from conservative states will probably resist much of what the president is pushing.

These Democratic sources say the most likely legislation to pass will be strengthening background checks, since it is the least overt form of gun control and it also appeals to gun rights advocates' emphasis on keeping guns away from people with mental health and criminal problems.

Democratic leadership sources say they intend to spend next week -- the first week the Senate is in session -- canvassing red-state Democrats to see what, if anything, is doable. Democratic senators who advocate various gun control measures will be lobbying their colleagues as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/politics/senate-democrats-gun-legislation/index.html

[EC]

22. Why are they such chicken shits?

They already have pretty much guaranteed lobbying jobs (or other representative jobs where they use their "famous name" for profit) if they lose, so what is the point? I'm guessing the lobbying jobs pay more and are easier than being in Congress.

[jpak]

29. "will probably" = CNN suckage

Thanks for your concern.

yup

[hack89]

30. Begich skeptical of gun proposals

Source: Fairbanks Daily News-Miner

FAIRBANKS — Sen. Mark Begich gave a tepid response to firearm restrictions proposed by President Barack Obama on Wednesday, saying he’s “not at all anxious” to pass new laws as an approach to curbing gun violence.

Obama unveiled his plans for new gun restrictions at a news conference, asking Congress to pass a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines, along with expanded background checks for gun buyers. The proposals come a month after a shooting in Newtown, Conn., killed 26 people, including 20 elementary school children.

Begich, a Democrat, cautioned in an interview with the News-Miner that he’d only seen bullet-point summaries of Obama’s proposals and wanted to learn more details. He said he is unlikely to support new gun restrictions, preferring instead to focus on enforcement of existing laws to attack the problem.

“I think they’ve got a long haul here,” Begich said of the Obama administration’s gun proposals. “There are some of us who just fundamentally believe in a Second Amendment right.”

Read more: http://www.newsminer.com/news/local_news/article_6d85a100-6081-11e2-a4f7-0019bb30f31a.html

[jpak]

32. Democrat - singular

yup

[hack89]

34. There will be more - look at this map

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2014_Senate_election_map.svg

Montana, Louisiana, Arkansas, Virginia, West Virginia, South Dakota, Nevada


All pro-gun states.

[iiibbb]

58. Let's hear from Clinton

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/bill-clinton-to-democrats-dont-trivialize-gun-culture-86443.html?hp=t1_3

Clinton closed his remarks with a warning to big Democratic donors that ultimately many Democratic lawmakers will be defeated if they choose to stand with the president.

“Do not be self-congratulatory about how brave you for being for this” gun control push, he said. “The only brave people are the people who are going to lose their jobs if they vote with you.”

[holdencaufield]

2. $10 says ...

... anything the President/Biden/Congress WILL do won't impact in any way, any of those things with which you claim to be fed up.

I agree there will be a backlash -- and it will be against gun-restricting legislators in 2014. The forces are already mustering.

[marew]

3. Gosh, I hope you're right! n/t

[holdencaufield]

4. Actually, I hope I'm wrong ...

... I don't want to see Democratic legislators voted out of office just because they were cajoled and coerced by a vocal-minority using a tragedy to further their political agenda.

I hope I'm wrong -- but, I'm not.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

10. "Cajoled and coerced" by which vocal minority?

The vocal minority of GUN NUTS using a tragedy to further their political agenda?

Or the vocal minority of GUN GRABBERS using a tragedy to further their political agenda?

There's no shortage of grave mining on either side of the issue.

Generally, legislators vote the way that'll keep them in office in the next election. That's a pretty good measure of "representing your constituents".

[gejohnston]

11. both but

only one has the MSM pundits spreading misinformation like semi auto ARs can fire 300 rpm.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

13. There may be some very twitchy people ...

... who could fire 300rpm in an AR, or at least empty a 30-round magazine in six seconds.

Me, I have a very slow finger when I shoot my ARs. Maybe 2 or 3 rpm. I'm happier with one hole in the "X" ring than I am with a cloud of smoke and a red-hot barrel.

[Kolesar]

24. Nobody gives a shit about what you said...eom

[xtraxritical]

26. Just a Bozo is right. Nobody here wants to hear your trigger finger bull shit.

[Kolesar]

35. circling gungeoneers: caufield, Bozo, johnson, and critical ... eom

[holdencaufield]

42. I only circle when I dance ...

... it's an ethnic thing. Look it up

[xtraxritical]

44. If by "critical" you mean me you are very mistaken.

I own no weapons and don't want any. I'm as pacific as Albert Einstein.

[holdencaufield]

41. You don't get the reference?

"I Think We're All Bozos on this Bus"? Firesign Theatre? The most avaunt-garde comedy troupe in the past 50 years? Oh my, these kids today.

And, I'm with you -- I prefer a light trigger, but a slow pull. Bullets are too expensive these days to spray and pray.

[JaneyVee]

43. Except ALL the polls tell a completely different story. This isn't 1994, welcome to 2013 where

people are sick of gun massacres. Yes, the tide has turned.

[Clames]

48. ALL the polls you choose to look at you mean.

Certainly not ALL the polls tell what you would like them too.

[marew]

12. Oops, sorry, I really read it wrong!

I DO NOT want to see Democrats voted out. Reading the post my brain read Republican instead of Democrat. Intense wishful thinking on my part!

[Comrade_McKenzie]

20. I want to see gun-toting Dems stripped of DNC funding.

Even if it means losing the Senate.

[LAGC]

33. Yeah, I'm sure alot of great legislation will be passed if the GOP re-takes the Senate...

Someone needs to make you chief strategist for the DCCC.

[jpak]

6. Fuck the GOP and NRA

yup

[catbyte]

17. Gosh, why, marew?

[marew]

70. Please check my next response.

I screwed up royally. So sorry. I completely misread the prior post.

[jpak]

5. Blah blah blah - The GOP/NRA sucks

yup

[holdencaufield]

7. Finally!

A REASONED argument.

Kudos

[jpak]

8. You have a better one?

Didn't think so.

yup

[DWC]

65. Absolutely n/t

[jpak]

66. Produce it

[amuse bouche]

39. I detest the gun humpers,

no matter what party they're from. Brain dead weasels

[Straw Man]

47. Ladies and gentlemen ...

I detest the gun humpers,

no matter what party they're from. Brain dead weasels

.... I present to you .... Enlightened Discourse! It adds so much to the discussion.

I'm just sayin' ...

[amuse bouche]

62. Don't care

I have zero respect for the Alex Jones' and his fellow whirlybirds of the world

[Straw Man]

64. No, you don't, bless your heart.

But to think that only Alex Jones and his ilk care about gun rights is not only offensive, it is politically naive. Ask Bill Clinton.

[amuse bouche]

67. "bless your heart"

You could not be more lame or unoriginal. Later...gunhumper

[Straw Man]

69. Confirmed.

All insult, no substance.

You do no credit to your cause.

[Puha Ekapi]

59. Do you detest...

...traditional Native Americans too? We are well armed, and have no intention of being disarmed.

[amuse bouche]

61. Do tell what good

all those arms will do?

Have you reclaimed your country?

[Puha Ekapi]

63. Who said anything...

...about taking over the country by force? Do you understand anything of our history, and what has happened to us at the hands of the government when we had no means to resist? Thank you, but no....I'm not about to trust the white man for my security. But back to my question: Do you detest traditional Native Americans who won't knuckle under to your ideas about gun control?

[amuse bouche]

68. "I'm not about to trust the white man for my security"

So very naive to believe they couldn't get you if they wanted to.

Besides, anyone wanting to use guns on American military would be charged with treason

But do enjoy your false sense of security and paranoia. What a life

[Puha Ekapi]

71. Who said anything...

...about taking on the U.S. military? Make stuff up much?

[amuse bouche]

72. Why else would you need assault weapons?

Do any of you gun humpers think beyond your noses?

Live in fear...die in fear...Enjoy your instruments of death

[Puha Ekapi]

73. "Assault" weapons

...are probably the most widely owned rifles among traditional, DEMOCRATIC VOTING Native Americans. Do you really want to brand us as "gun humpers", or do you wish to actually have a conversation?

[Puha Ekapi]

74. Have a look at this...

Right Wing "gun humper".

http://www.kingsacademy.com/mhodges/03_The-World-since-1900/12_The-Uncertain-70s/pictures/LFE-325_AIM+hostages_Wounded-Knee_1973.jpg

[another_liberal]

19. 12% is hardly a majority of Americans.

Only 12% of Americans oppose an assault weapons ban. How many elections do you think that will win you?

[amuse bouche]

40. I find it hard to believe

that number of Americans are in love with semi-automatic death machines

[another_liberal]

46. Perhaps . . .?

Perhaps it has something to do with how the question was asked?

[Victor_c3]

25. We have to keep the momentum up for two more years

I wasn't excessively aware of politics in 2010 like I am now, but I didn't see the 2012 tea party thing coming at all.

[another_liberal]

37. That's because the "tea party thing" was manufactured . . .

That's because the "tea party thing" was manufactured by a few wealthy conservatives and die-hard racists. It was never a genuine, grass roots movement. Dick Armey paid for buses to bring tea baggers from as far away as South Dakota to that first tea party event held at the D.C. Capitol.

"Hey! Who wants a free ride to Washington? We're all gonna go shout insults at that black muslim President!"

The whole sordid thing was almost totally contrived and manufactured hype.

[Lizzie Poppet]

9. What a "HUGH" FUCK YOU might look like:

[Hyper_Eye]

16. Nice! n/t

[supercats]

14. Agree 100%

Put all these gun nut jobs in prison where they belong!

[actslikeacarrot]

15. what is your definition...

...of a gun nut? If its anyone who owns a gun we don't have enough prison space.

[catbyte]

18. No. It's assholes like the braying talking heads spewing crap about impeachment, gun grabbing,

and all other knee jerk reactions to Obama's common sense, holistic approach to the problem. What would you rather do--nothing?

[actslikeacarrot]

28. i agree that...

...its bullshit but is it illegal?

[Comrade_McKenzie]

21. Unfortunately. That'd be good for job creation...

And TV/Radio would be much more bearable.

[actslikeacarrot]

27. i dont know...

...is there really a long line of people wanting to be prison guards?

[SunSeeker]

23. And the gungeoneer backlash is HERE.

DU threads are lousy with them these days. Makes DU suck. Folks seem to be joining DU just to troll gun-related posts with NRA talking points.

[redstatebluegirl]

56. I hit full ignore

I don't want to hear that junk here. I came here to get away from that.

[SunSeeker]

57. I am so sick of it. These gungeoneers make DU suck. nt

[toby jo]

31. It's here to stay. With the systemic violence and mass-shootings going on

in our country there will be reminders every so often.

If I were a thinking legislator I'd think about the shooting that will come before my next election. And there will
be a shooting. It'll be raw, and fingers will point to his/her vote. That's where their heads should be. God help em if it's another school, or another set of children. Game-changer.

Wish they'd tackle the handguns, that's where the real violence is.

[mike_c]

38. +1

Hand guns are the real problem.

[Straw Man]

49. Add the qualifier "illegal" ...

Hand guns are the real problem.

... and I'd agree. But there is very little on the table to effectively deal with that: only increases in the restrictions on lawful owners.

A comprehensive approach to drug-and-gang-related handgun violence would require a massive law-enforcement initiative along the lines of the failed War on Drugs. Perhaps we could cancel that fiasco and divert its resources to an effective crackdown on gang violence.

[Puha Ekapi]

60. +1

[samsingh]

36. kick

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

45. regarding...

"...and presented them with a HUGH...."

Not to pick but I could use a "HUGH" or 'Tugh'!

[jpak]

50. 92 recs and counting

[cantbeserious]

51. It's A Start To Eliminating The Influence Of Gun Culture And Gun Madness In Society

eom

[Tuesday Afternoon]

52. Pro-gun rallies across U.S. attack Obama's curbs on firearms (bunch of dumbasses)

By Nick Carey | Reuters

- Pro-gun activists plan rallies in 49 states at "high noon" on Saturday to support the right to own firearms they say is under attack from President Barack Obama's proposals to reduce gun violence.

The rallies, to be held mostly at state capitals, were being organized by a group called Guns Across America that was launched by Texas airline pilot Eric Reed.

The U.S. debate over gun control flared in mid-December when a man killed 20 first graders and six adults in a matter of minutes at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, using an assault rifle.

In the wake of the mass killing, Obama and gun control advocates have begun a push to ban assault weapons. A number of other states have taken up gun legislation and New York, which had among the strictest gun control laws in the country, broadened its ban on assault weapons on Tuesday.

Obama also called for a ban on high-capacity magazines and more stringent background checks for gun purchasers.

Gun control advocates say American civilians have no justifiable need for assault weapons or high-capacity magazines, and they say more background checks will help keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

more at link:
http://news.yahoo.com/pro-gun-rallies-across-u-attack-obamas-curbs-154112625.html

[jpak]

53. and gun nuts shooting off guns at gun shows in NC and OH

backlash backlash fail.

yup

[Tuesday Afternoon]

54. epic fail. we will get the guns. guns suck. yep.

[jpak]

55. Eggzackly