How many private sales can someone do legally?

[Logical]

If I bought a gun a week and sold a gun a week on Craigslist is that legal?

There has to be some limit to stop this from happening.

Rachel was talking about private sales tonight so it made me curious.

[Hoyt]

1. There is no limit, because there is no control on private sales. The gun culture doesn't want it.

They've bought and paid for legislators just like big corporations. Time that changes.

[PavePusher]

3. The controls have been explained to you many times.

Why are you promoting a falsehood?

[aikoaiko]

5. And on the other hand, some anti-gun militants think that a single FTF sale for a hunting rifle

for half the original price is a "gun deal" and should be illegal.

[AtheistCrusader]

8. Please stopy lying.

You've been shown the correct answer many times.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

12. Another total falsehood from you

Yet once again we will be patient and explain the rules to you...one more time.

[PavePusher]

2. There is no hard numerical limit.

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The test is whether you are making a substantial profit ("in the business of" ) from the transactions. If you are selling for only enough to cover your buying, they may look at who you are selling to, but if they are legal people, it would be difficult to charge you with anything.

[aikoaiko]

4. I always wanted to review some successful cases of illegal gun dealers.

There must be a case where firearms were legally bought and sold FTF (in terms of state residency and nonprohibited status) where someone did it so much and for profit that the ATF successfully pursued charges. It might not be even be about numbers of firearms or amount of profit, but intent.

I just don't know of a case.

FWIW: I just sold a long arm that more than doubled in retail price over the last 8 years.

[krispos42]

6. Everybody in this thread needs to get some friggin' avatars

It's all "invisible man" shit going on here.



I would support a 12-guns-a-year limit on selling privately, I think.

It works out to a gun a month, but you don't have to turn away customers because you sold a gun 26 days ago and, darn it, you've got 4 more days to go before you can sell another one.

[Straw Man]

7. Sorry, got no avatar.

I blame the economy, but...

[div class = excerpt]I would support a 12-guns-a-year limit on selling privately, I think.
I wouldn't. No skin off my nose, since I rarely sell a gun, but it would put a hurt on collectors, who have to take their opportunities -- both buying and selling -- when they find them. I would support it if there were a collector's license that is more broadly defined than the current C&R and would exempt the holder from the limits.

[ileus]

13. avatars kill people.

[michreject]

9. It's legal

I've bought and sold over 200 guns.

As long as you follow the law and are not doing it as a source of income, go for it.

[ileus]

10. It's legal until you get noticed.

I've had LEO's say in the 14-20 gun a year range is fine, but after that it raises question of being a dealer and dodging uncle sams taxes more than filling out the 4473 paperwork.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

17. The ATF is, after all, a branch of the Department of Treasury

Can't legally/easily ban something? TAX IT!!

[one-eyed fat man]

18. Nope, ATF got moved

The BATFE is part of Justice and works for Eric Holder.

[ileus]

19. That's working like a champ....

[Upton]

11. Why does there have to be a limit at all?

This view may not be popular with some around here, but I believe "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" means exactly that. ..

Rachel is no friend of those who support gun rights...but yet you already knew that, didn't you?

[hack89]

14. If you making a living doing it, Uncle Sam wants to tax you. nt

[ProgressiveProfessor]

21. If you sell anything, including a firearm, Uncle Sam want it declared

Ask those on Ebay or Etsy

[GreenStormCloud]

15. Craigslist does not accept ads for guns. Neither does eBay.

You would use GunBroker.com. The gun would need to be shipped to an FFL dealer for the actual change of ownership. The exception would be if you happened to live close enough to actually meet and if your state allowed it. Most states do allow private sales with no state interference.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

16. There is no "set limit"... the limit becomes the ATFs discretion.

The ATF decides if you are engaging in the sale of firearms as a business. I can't imagine turning over guns weekly would bode well someone whom the ATF notices doing it. While not explicity legal, that person would be having to defend their actions to an agency that basically has the authority to make up the rules as it goes along.

That's some risky business right there. The law is certainly vague enough to let the ATF pinch the bad guys - and it's vague enough that there aren't many established loopholes to let the guys (that the ATF *really* wants to get) get away . I have no problem with this.

[41mag]

20. Sounds to me

That the problem lies in listening to Rachel discuss any aspect of guns. She has nothing but contempt for the Second Amendment, and it shows.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

22. In the past she has also made factual errors as well

[Simo 1939_1940]

24. And tells laughable lies as well...........

as in......"Don't bother to do any research on gun control on the internet - the information is all biased."

[SteveW]

23. My feeling about the "gun control movement" is that it is top heavy...

with MSM, so-called "liberal commentators," and big-city Democratic politicians.

There seems to be very little rank-and-file support/activism within this motionless movement.

I admit that gun-controller/prohibitionists have been effective from the 70s into the 90s, by establishing a pop-up "ideal" for liberals and progressives, adhered to by the above elites, but it clearly has not established a working grass-roots organization, even in its halcyon days. This effectiveness holds over when it comes to guns: MSM and Democratic "leadership" cannot even conceive of promoting or allowing a pro-gun liberal to voice the position of pro-2A Democrats. And yet, we are here. If it were not for MSM, "gun control" would find its way into the dustbin of prohibitionism.

I think Rachel has made the mistake of many liberal commentators: Using guns as a means of maintaining a culture war -- part thinly-veneered intellectualism; part moral passion -- which only draws down superior firepower upon those who want no part of the gun-control position.