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Related: About this forumCourt upholds Biglerville business owner's federal firearms license revocation
Peter J. Smith, United States Attorney for the Middle District of Pennsylvania and Donald Robinson, Acting Special Agent in Charge, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Philadelphia Field Division jointly announced Friday that U.S. Middle District Court Judge John E. Jones III, has adopted the revocation of the Federal Firearms License (FFL) of Scott W. Taylor of Taylors Trading Post in Biglerville.
Compliance inspection
In early 2010, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) conducted a compliance inspection of Taylors business, which was operated out of his Adams County home. ATF discovered that over a three-year period of time, Taylor had committed more than 10,000 violations of the Gun Control Act, which requires firearm dealers to keep detailed and timely records of the purchase and sale of firearms.
Despite buying and selling thousands of guns over that three-year period, Taylor failed to record the purchase of 5,715 firearms, the sale of 2,856 firearms, and keep records of the disposition of 1,618 additional firearms. About 160 of the firearms remain unaccounted for. Taylor also admitted to possessing a firearm with an obliterated serial number, which he knew was illegal and failing to report it to law enforcement.
http://www.therecordherald.com/article/20130302/NEWS/130309969
villager
(26,001 posts)...will do all they can to overturn this.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)That you actually believe that- or that you don't?
villager
(26,001 posts)That would be hard to top.
Starting with your delusions that some of your favorite gun proliferation groups won't be working hard to overturn this common-sense decision.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)I have no problems whatsover with the Feds dropping the hammer on Taylor, and I doubt even the much-loathed NRA would have any problems with this prosecution. Of course, I may be wrong in this assumption- no doubt you have some evidence to the contrary and you'll be posting it here Real Soon Now...
villager
(26,001 posts)...but we shall see.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)Kind of a rhetorical observation, really.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Just like the fundie idjits that believe in vast networks of Satanic cults, it would seem that there are
a few of you lot who claim to "know" what the NRA, et al., are "really" up to.
It's a pity, really- seeing a long-time DUer venture into CT land...
villager
(26,001 posts)Your posts are always snarky, and you're a by-the-book gun lemming.
I guess the username was just an exercise in irony.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Then again, excessive attention to ones' popularity amongst those they do not know usually abates
in adolescence...
villager
(26,001 posts)Ah well.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Somehow, you've interpreted a article about the NRA opposing registration to mean
that they want to do away with the Form 4473 and the Gun Control Act of 1968.
2/10. At least you found an article about the NRA- keep trying
villager
(26,001 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)"Some guy wrote a book claiming the NRA tried to undermine the 1968 GCA"- and they don't excerpt
any of it? Lame.
Glad I could be of help honing your research skills...
villager
(26,001 posts)How about "Nasty Handpuppet" as a more accurate DU handle?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)...a defense of *them*. A pox on both your houses!"
-*The NRA* for becoming (as I said before) a hypocritical right-wing political movement with a bitchin' gun club...
-*You* for trying to spread faith-promoting rumor and slandering a fellow DUer when called on it. You don't like the NRA? Fine- but hate them for real reasons instead of some half baked CT.
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=53805
Remember that from the last time we discussed your Manichaean view of gun politics?
Defending a second-hand quote from Dennis Hennigan? Really?
He's about as nonpartisan and unbiased as Wayne Lapierre.
villager
(26,001 posts)...obsessive view of the issue, replete with rote NRA apologetics, ignoring of all blood on the floor, etc.
Points, I guess, for the fancy word-use however. Still, lipstick on a pig, and such....
Straw Man
(6,624 posts)That article blames the NRA for lobbying against increasing the frequency of ATF inspection visits to more than one a year. Yet your publicintegrity.org article says that some dealers go eight years without an inspection.
Sounds more like insufficient enforcement to me.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)They interfere with Revealed Truth...
Straw Man
(6,624 posts)... another gun-rights advocate who supports this revocation. Shall we start keeping a scorecard?
Be sure to post as soon as the NRA challenges it, okay?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)...is secretly doing while failing to present any evidence whatsoever of these actions...
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)can get one up to ten years.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)mwrguy
(3,245 posts)10,000 violations?
jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)icon to villager: Are you in the habit of inventing things out of thin air? I have no problems whatsover with the Feds dropping the hammer on Taylor, and I doubt even the much-loathed NRA would have any problems with this prosecution. Of course, I may be wrong in this assumption- no doubt you have some evidence to the contrary and you'll be posting it here Real Soon Now..
Well not concrete evidence, but how about some 'leaning insight'?
federal agents who visited Scott Taylors rural Pennsylvania gun shop in early Jan 2010 to conduct the stores first inspection in more than three decades found thousands of violations of firearm sales laws. Taylor couldnt properly account for more than 3,000 guns he had bought or sold during the previous three years .. These and other violations led ATF to revoke his license to sell guns in Nov 2011. But that wasnt the end of the story.
Taylor blamed the infractions on his poor health and a computer crash that wiped out his business records. The gun shop, located in the basement of his Biglerville, Pa., home, remains open 14 months later while Taylor appeals the ATF action in federal court. His lawyer, said the violations have been corrected and no rational person would expect them to reoccur in the future.
Oh man, the poor guy has SUFFERED ENOUGH, how can batfe be so CRUEL as to prosecute this to the fullest? Why do they persecute such former law abiding citizens so?
Christopher Conte, NRAs legislative counsel, in a May 2012, letter to ATF said that the current system for revoking the licenses of dealers is directly contrary to what Congress intended for these hearings.
In the past, the NRA has unsuccessfully supported congressional bills that would rewrite the licensing law so that ATF could levy fines and other penalties short of revocation. The NRA argues that changes in the law are necessary to prevent what it says are all-too-common situations in which ATF has revoked a dealers license for insignificant technical violations.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/02/01/12117/atfs-struggle-close-down-firearms-dealers
So after reviewing all that I wrote above, I'm giving 5 to 1 odds the nra will oppose the revocation of this guy's ffl license (oh my, redundancy, 'license').
Game, Set, but not yet Match, to Villager.
Straw Man
(6,624 posts)You be sure to let us all know when that happens, OK?
The operative modifier is "in the past." They were not arguing this case. But you be sure to let us know if and when they do.