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Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:02 PM Mar 2013

Thousands of armed vigilantes takeover Mexican town, arrest police


Thousands of armed vigilantes have taken over a town in Mexico and arrested police officers after their 'commander' was killed and dumped in the street.

The self described 'community police' and arrested 12 officers and the town's former director of public security, who they accuse of taking part in the killing of Guadalupe Quinones Carbajal, 28, on behalf of a local organised crime group.

The 1,500-strong force has also set up improvised checkpoints on the major road running through Tierra Colorado, which connects the capital Mexico City to Acapulco, a coastal city popular with tourists less than 40 miles away.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2300381/Vigilantes-seize-town-Mexico-shoot-tourists-commander-killed.html

Standing up for themselves against a corrupt system.
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Thousands of armed vigilantes takeover Mexican town, arrest police (Original Post) Paul E Ester Mar 2013 OP
And people think it could never happen here... NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #1
It already has... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #4
Finally had a chance to read that, what a great story. Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #27
The "Can't happen here" mindset sylvi Mar 2013 #26
They can't be armed ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #2
And they border Guatemala...... rdharma Mar 2013 #5
Evil and scrupulous US gun manufacturers of course!!! ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #6
I know where the Galil is made. rdharma Mar 2013 #7
How does "lack of laws and enforcement in the US" account for guns crossing the southern MX border? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #8
I said Mexico.... not "southern Mexico" rdharma Mar 2013 #9
Uncle Sam handed out plenty of arms in Central America without asking too many questions. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #23
Not an Israeli Galil dookers Mar 2013 #11
Yup! You're right. rdharma Mar 2013 #13
The MX military has lost 56,000 troops to desertion since 2006 dookers Mar 2013 #14
And Wayne LaPierre guardian Mar 2013 #15
Galils are made in Guatemala? holdencaufield Mar 2013 #18
Manufactured in Colombia by Indumil dookers Mar 2013 #19
I didn't say that....... rdharma Mar 2013 #20
There's at least one Galil at large there: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #3
Beretta AR 70/90 made in Italy dookers Mar 2013 #12
Stocks fold in opposite directions. rdharma Mar 2013 #16
actually dookers Mar 2013 #17
Our resident gun ex-spurt sylvi Mar 2013 #25
If that happened in our nation, the community police would probably be better armed. spin Mar 2013 #10
don't they realize guns kill people... ileus Mar 2013 #21
Perhaps there are some on DU who would oppose this action. Let's hear from them. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #22
Taking on the police and the drug dealers. Balls of steel. AAO Mar 2013 #24
But have they all passed their background checks? Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #28
Are you against background checks? AAO Mar 2013 #29
you sound antagonistic .... Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #30
Nobody asked you to butt in, but you're welcome! AAO Mar 2013 #31
And your rudeness is unneeded, and also not asked for. oneshooter Mar 2013 #33
I appreciate the sentiment. AAO Mar 2013 #34
"You sound like you have a problem with them?" Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #32
I thought you were being cute, since there are no background checks in Mexico. AAO Mar 2013 #35
actually there are gejohnston Mar 2013 #36
Well, then I'm an ass for not looking that up first. Thanks! AAO Mar 2013 #37
I apologize for 'misspeaking' as the pubes would say, or AAO Mar 2013 #38
 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
27. Finally had a chance to read that, what a great story.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 10:45 PM
Mar 2013
“You call yourselves GIs—you go over there and fight for three and four years—you come back and you let a bunch of draft dodgers who stayed here where it was safe, and you were making it safe for them, push you around. … If you people don’t stop this, and now is the time and place, you people wouldn’t make a pimple on a fighting GI’s ass. Get guns…”


Thanks for posting it
 

sylvi

(813 posts)
26. The "Can't happen here" mindset
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:34 PM
Mar 2013

The "Can't happen here" mindset is the most dangerous form of American exceptionalism.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
7. I know where the Galil is made.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:20 PM
Mar 2013

Yes. Israel. Who supported the righties and their murder squads in Guatemala. The US did too.

You must have me confused with someone else. I don't blame the gun makers for Mexico's gun violence. I blame lack of laws and enforcement in the US for the tide of guns flowing into Mexico.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
8. How does "lack of laws and enforcement in the US" account for guns crossing the southern MX border?
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:25 PM
Mar 2013

Well over a thousand miles from the US, for those without a map handy...

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
9. I said Mexico.... not "southern Mexico"
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:43 PM
Mar 2013

Nice straw man!

The US has NO system to prevent mass purchases of firearms by straw purchasers.

And "thousand miles"? You mean they don't have cars in Mexico?

BTW - The Zapatistas had plenty of M-16s.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
23. Uncle Sam handed out plenty of arms in Central America without asking too many questions.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 04:00 PM
Mar 2013

Many of which were of Warsaw Pact manufacture so as to obscure their source.
In any event, do you really think the sorts of people that have this kind...



...of hard cash on hand would have any trouble finding illegal arms?

dookers

(61 posts)
11. Not an Israeli Galil
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:28 PM
Mar 2013

Its a Beretta AR70/90 made in Italy bought by the Mexican army. A rarely seen rifle that was made in very few numbers. Probably stolen by a deserter.

By the way, Galils are no longer made in Israel and haven't for a decade now. Almost all Galil rifles in latin America are produced in Colombia.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
13. Yup! You're right.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:47 PM
Mar 2013

After a closer look ......... a Beretta AR70/90 it is.

Isn't it against the law to steal guns from the Mexican military?

dookers

(61 posts)
14. The MX military has lost 56,000 troops to desertion since 2006
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:55 PM
Mar 2013

Alot of these soldiers take their service weapon to sell on the black market. Its not unusual for soldiers and corrupt officers to pilfer from the various government and police armories to sell on the side.

It's against the law but whose going to stop them? The inept army or the corrupt police?

dookers

(61 posts)
19. Manufactured in Colombia by Indumil
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:59 PM
Mar 2013

Almost all the Galils seen in this part of the world come from Colombia. They bought the licensing for it and have been making it since the 90's. Even though the Galil is commonly associated with Israel, it only saw action with them for a few short years before they transitioned to the M16. The m16 was cheaper, more accurate, and lighter than the Galil.

I think the Galil saw more action outside of Israel. Its the main arm of South Africa, Colombia, and lots Latin American countries.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
20. I didn't say that.......
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:03 PM
Mar 2013

.... but, of course, you know that and are just trying to be "cute".

Israel sold them to the Guatemalan military. Perfect gun for the death squads.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
16. Stocks fold in opposite directions.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:09 PM
Mar 2013

Operatin handles on opposite sides.

Weird carry handle on AR70/90.

dookers

(61 posts)
17. actually
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:53 PM
Mar 2013

The stocks fold the same way and the bolt handles are both on the same side.

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The Beretta AR70 is a seldom seen rifle, so it's easy to mistake it for another rifle. Modern western infantry rifles tend to look alike.

 

sylvi

(813 posts)
25. Our resident gun ex-spurt
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:18 PM
Mar 2013

Our resident gun ex-spurt's Google-Fu skills are lacking in this thread.

spin

(17,493 posts)
10. If that happened in our nation, the community police would probably be better armed.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:14 PM
Mar 2013

While I see a few that probably have real assault rifles, most seem to have bolt action rifles and shotguns. Hopefully they can stand up to the firepower the cartel's have.



Many of the vigilantes are carrying high-powered assault rifles, which may have been seized from the former security director's car.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2300381/Vigilantes-seize-town-Mexico-shoot-tourists-commander-killed.html


I have some fear that eventually cartels may begin taking over towns in the states. Disarming citizens in our nation would make this far easier. Perhaps it is time the we finally admit that we lost our War on Drugs decades ago and legalize and tax certain drugs.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
32. "You sound like you have a problem with them?"
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:44 AM
Mar 2013

Is that a question or a statement?

I asked if these vigilantes have passed their background checks. How in the world does that sound as if I am AGAINST background checks?

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
35. I thought you were being cute, since there are no background checks in Mexico.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:58 AM
Mar 2013

Sorry that I misunderstood.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
38. I apologize for 'misspeaking' as the pubes would say, or
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:19 AM
Mar 2013

for being 'an ass' as I would say.

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