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marble falls

(57,080 posts)
Tue May 21, 2013, 09:19 AM May 2013

Jeffrey Nugent says his brother Ted Nugent is wrong on background checks

Jeffrey Nugent says his brother Ted Nugent is wrong on background checks
By Jeffrey Nugent,May 17, 2013




Jeffrey Nugent is the former president and chief executive of Revlon.

I’m a member of the National Rifle Association and a former Army officer with assignments in the military police, artillery, and operations research and intelligence at the Pentagon.

<snip>

And I agree with Ted that our constitutional right to bear arms should not be undermined. I want all those who are qualified to purchase a gun to be able to do so. But — and here is where I part ways with my brother — not everyone is qualified to own a gun, so expanded background checks should be a legislative priority.

I believe strongly that expanding and improving mandatory background checks will keep a lot of people who aren’t entitled to Second Amendment rights from having easy access to guns. As of today, a convicted felon can find a gun show or a private seller and buy a firearm without a background check. That loophole should be closed. Every gun transaction must include a thorough background check. Why would responsible gun owners want to protect people who threaten not only our safety but our gun rights?

The NRA has it wrong: Irresponsible gun owners are bad for everyone. If you shouldn’t have access to a gun, then there should be no way for you to access a gun! Can anyone argue with that?

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The tragedy in Newtown, Conn., on Dec. 14, and the gun violence that claims on average eight children per day in the United States, require us to think differently about what the Second Amendment really means.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-05-17/opinions/39329064_1_gun-violence-gun-rights-gun-show

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Jeffrey Nugent says his brother Ted Nugent is wrong on background checks (Original Post) marble falls May 2013 OP
Oh my the sane Nugent SummerSnow May 2013 #1
I agree with him but I think gejohnston May 2013 #2
Purchase permit Bazinga May 2013 #3
a good definition would be gejohnston May 2013 #4
test post (nt) Paladin May 2013 #5
huh? gejohnston May 2013 #6
test reply discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #7
Show us the Death Certificate, Ted Kennah May 2013 #8

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
2. I agree with him but I think
Tue May 21, 2013, 10:47 AM
May 2013

the MT amendment had the wrong mechanism in my opinion.
Instead of going to the nearest gun store, why not do what Michigan does, which has been in place before NICS? Basically you get a purchase permit that is good for 30 days showing you passed a background check. Why not have the FBI set up a website where you put in your info and print it out yourself, showing your drivers license as proof of identity to the seller?
The hard part is intra state online sales, since both won't be face to face. Inter state already has background checks, unless they are violating the 1968 Gun Control Act. Perhaps have all intra state online and mail order sales go to an FFL if the two are more than a certain distance apart.

A good idea should not have a poor execution.

Bazinga

(331 posts)
3. Purchase permit
Tue May 21, 2013, 01:51 PM
May 2013

I like that. I've been saying we needed some way to show that a background check has been done in private sales, I just didn't have a name for it.

Now the next step is to come up with a good definition of a transfer so that the law has a fighting chance at passing. I'll admit, I don't know what what that definition will be, but I think the purchase permit principle is sound.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
4. a good definition would be
Tue May 21, 2013, 01:58 PM
May 2013

a sale, gift, permanent transfer outside of immediate family, or a loan past three days.

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