PoliceOne Gun Control Survey: Top 10 reasons for gun violence

[virginia mountainman]

Interesting read, absolutely not surprised at the outcome.

http://www.policeone.com/Gun-Legislation-Law-Enforcement/articles/6253478-P1-Gun-Control-Survey-Top-10-reasons-for-gun-violence/

[NYC_SKP]

1. This should be posted over in the "nanananana I can't hear you" forum, or Gun Control Activism Group

It would mean an instablock!

..

[rdharma]

2. Are you going to recycle that bogus "survey" again?

Really?

We discussed that more than a month ago!

[NYC_SKP]

3. The article is dated May 30, 2013.

Looks fresh to me.

Even a month old, it would be discussion worthy.

[rdharma]

5. From the same source as the previous bogus "survey". nt

[CokeMachine]

9. Don't bother correcting him.

He's wrong again and reading a date is hard work!! Be careful he likes to bait and alert.

[bowens43]

4. Doesnt matter what the reasons are the solution is easy

a total ban on firearms and ammunition. Problem solved.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

6. I presume...

...you've got a wand handy somewhere.

[Jenoch]

8. What's your plan

to accomplish your lofty goal?

[CokeMachine]

10. You can do better than a hit and run post.

[spin]

12. Great idea!!!

We should also send a mission to Mars next year.

Trying to impose your idea at this time would result in far more violence than it would solve and could cause our nation to split right down the middle. You can argue that the government and the military could confiscate all firearms and perhaps you are right but much blood would be shed.

I would say that your solution is very difficult if not impossible.

Realistically there is no simple easy solution to gun violence in our nation. Still we are making headway despite what you read in the media. Gun violence in our nation is approaching an all time low but the gun control advocates and the gun rights groups do not publicize this as it does little good for their agendas.

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Pace of Decline Slows in Past Decade
Released: May 7, 2013

National rates of gun homicide and other violent gun crimes are strikingly lower now than during their peak in the mid-1990s, paralleling a general decline in violent crime, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of government data. Beneath the long-term trend, though, are big differences by decade: Violence plunged through the 1990s, but has declined less dramatically since 2000.

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Nearly all the decline in the firearm homicide rate took place in the 1990s; the downward trend stopped in 2001 and resumed slowly in 2007. The victimization rate for other gun crimes plunged in the 1990s, then declined more slowly from 2000 to 2008. The rate appears to be higher in 2011 compared with 2008, but the increase is not statistically significant. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall also dropped in the 1990s before declining more slowly from 2000 to 2010, then ticked up in 2011.

Despite national attention to the issue of firearm violence, most Americans are unaware that gun crime is lower today than it was two decades ago. According to a new Pew Research Center survey, today 56% of Americans believe gun crime is higher than 20 years ago and only 12% think it is lower.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/

Florida firearm violence hits record low; concealed gun permits up
Debate continues over relationship between guns and crime

By JACOB CARPENTER
Posted January 6, 2013 at 5:15 a.m.

In the so-called Gunshine State, home to the most gun permits in the country, firearm violence has fallen to the lowest point on record.

As state and national legislators consider gun control laws in the wake of last month's Connecticut school shooting, Florida finds itself in a gun violence depression. The Firearm-involved violent crime rate has dropped 33 percent between 2007 and 2011, while the number of issued concealed weapons permits rose nearly 90 percent during that time, state records show.
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2013/jan/06/fla-firearm-violence-hits-record-low/

[premium]

14. You keep spouting this nonsense,

but never tell us how it can be accomplished short of, A. A repeal of the 2A, which wouldn't ban firearms, just revert it to the states, or, B. A total takeover of the Fed. Govt. by a dictatorship, which ain't going to happen.

Care to explain?

[virginia mountainman]

17. LOL!!

No...

[Lizzie Poppet]

18. "problem solved"

Oh, of course...because there will be such a high rate of compliance with an outright ban, and not even a little bit of violent resistance or anything.

[Ghost in the Machine]

19. I think they should ban people like you (banners & confiscation nuts) from this site, because you...

... go against Core Democratic Values. The Democratic Party Platform SUPPORTS THE 2ND AMENDMENT and the RKBA.

Perhaps you should think about going 3rd Party, or starting your own "Nanny State Party", and see how far that gets you...

Just sayin'...

Ghost

[Starboard Tack]

7. Sure as hell says a lot about cops in this country.

Maybe their attitude toward guns is one of the major problems, if this survey in any way reflects reality. All the causes cited exist in the rest of the world, except easy access to firearms. Conclusion being, either the survey is bogus or 95% of the cops who participated are gun nuts themselves and , as such, are in total denial.

[rrneck]

11. It would appear that

police officers are not particularly well versed in cultural dynamics or sociology.

[Dawson Leery]

13. Policeone and Officer.com are a step above FreeRepublic.

That step would be the graphics on their respective websites.

Most of these goombas supported Bush and his criminal war against Iraq.

[ileus]

15. The cops are on the front lines every day, they should know.

[jimmy the one]

16. invalid results from policeone

As part of the recently-conducted PoliceOne Gun Control Survey, we asked law enforcement officials what they believed was the biggest cause of gun violence in the U.S.

FACTCHECK: a reference to a March survey by a group called PoliceOne.com, a news and resource site for law enforcement officers. The survey wasn’t a scientific poll that aimed to gather responses from a random sample of the nation’s police officers. Rather, it was a self-selected Internet poll, in which more than 15,000 of PoliceOne.com’s 400,000 registered members chose to respond, either because of email solicitation or a link to the survey on the PoliceOne.com website.http://factcheck.org/2013/04/nra-misrepresents-police-survey-legislation/

Barf, so evidently the 15,000 'verified law enforcement officials' claimed some link to law enforcement & subscribed to policeone website; makes it an unscientific internet poll, not random, aka GARBAGE, only by serendipity could it reflect truth. (this might be what you outed earlier, rdharma, if so good show).

And of course the nra tried to make it appear authentic & legitimate:

FactCheck: Online ads from the NRA wrongly claimed that “80% of police say background checks will have no effect” on violent crime. The survey cited in the ads by the NRA says nothing of the sort.
... the survey methodology says that a question on criminal background checks was removed “due to flaws with the question details, highlighted by a handful of users.” We spoke with.. vice president of content for the Praetorian Group, which owns PoliceOne.com, about the NRA ads’ claim. He told us he was “unclear where that came from specifically.” He said that the question that was dropped — because of “an error in how it was phrased” — couldn’t be the source either, as the data didn’t match the claim.