A couple of triple homicide crimes with related perp suicide Near Me in the last few days:

[Loudly]

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-06-12/news/chi-source-triple-murder-suicide-reported-near-darien-20130611_1_suspected-murder-suicide-daughters-dupage-county

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-st-louis-shooting-20130613,0,924375.story

In each case, the shooter is dead by his own hand.

Question: Is this justice? The shooter is dead. But is this justice?

Possible Response: Justice is served. Shooter is dead. The system couldn't have assured such an appropriate outcome in such an expeditious period of time as happened here. Guns rule in these cases.

[DonP]

1. This is a crime story and belongs in the True Crime forum, not here

Unless one of them had a concealed carry permit that you forgot to mention Shares?

[Loudly]

2. The reason they had a gun wasn't discussed in these stories.

The fact that they had one didn't need to be specifically reported.

Because of the victim autopsy evidence.

[gejohnston]

3. hard question

I do know in Japan, the first one would be labeled as four suicides.

[Loudly]

4. That's one way of looking at it.

But it would make the USA subject to labeling as: 300 million suicides.

[gejohnston]

5. not really,

murder suicides like that are not very unusual in Japan, although they tend to use knives and fire. If they counted murder/suicides the same way we do, would their murder rate really be that much lower? Would their suicide rate be that high?

[rrneck]

6. So you're still in Chicago

the gunless utopia of the north.

No, it isn't justice.

[ManiacJoe]

7. Obviously it is not justice.

You cannot punish the dead. About the only upside is that the criminal will not be committing any more crimes.