Gun hugger Adam Effin' Kokesh.......... again!

[rdharma]

Libertarian Activist Openly Loads Shotgun and Calls for Revolution in D.C.

He had wanted to organize an armed watch on Washington, but plans kind of fell through.

July 5, 2013

The libertarian activist Adam Kokesh who called for and then canceled an armed march on Washington uploaded a YouTube video on July 4 that shows him loading a shotgun in the center of Freedom Plaza, Washington, D.C, near the White House. In the video, Kokesh cryptically warns, “We will not allow our government to destroy our humanity. We are the final American revolution. See you next Independence Day.”

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/libertarian-activist-openly-loads-shotgun-and-calls-revolution-dc

[rdharma]

1. Check out this fool!

[Bjorn Against]

8. Holy shit he is a nut case

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I used to respect him when he was standing up against the war in Iraq, but he sure has gone off the deep end. Watching that video I seriously worry that he has become a very dangerous person, I hope he doesn't end up killing anybody.

[CokeMachine]

2. Why do you promote these people?

Do you has a luv for them or a sad?

[gejohnston]

3. Doing more harm than good, bong water and guns don’t mix edition

While reading Civil Disobedience for Dummies, I think he skipped the chapter about not committing felonies.

[rdharma]

4. Kokesh is desperately trying to win back his nut job fringe fans. nt

[gejohnston]

6. anarchists are by definition

fringe.

[mokawanis]

5. Kokesh is a shitbag

a shitbag who can walk and talk at the same time, which kind of surprises me. Loading a shotgun to make a point while standing in Freedom Plaza definitely qualifies him as a gun nut. I wonder if he thinks he's actually convincing sane and reasonable people of anything? I'd like to think that most people see him as an extremist asshole worthy only of ridicule and contempt.

[rdharma]

7. Deserving of ridicule and contempt.........

..... and also arrest IMHO!

[JimDandy]

9. And yet you just gave him another platform

on a forum where everyone is armed to the hilt.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

11. that is just the kind of guy he is

our rdharma

[CokeMachine]

16. Did you ever read BongBong's shit??

SSDD!!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

47. possibly even the same

ISP#

[CokeMachine]

49. Naw -- he plays on the correct side of this issue so --

he's golden and pizza proof. Bongbong, sharesunited and at least one other get free reign under new names. I believe the one I didn't mention is Iver!!

Note to Jury: All of the names I used are PPR'd members so this is not a call out!!

[gejohnston]

51. one slight disagreement,

Loading a shotgun to make a point while standing in Freedom Plaza definitely qualifies him as a gun nut.

It just qualifies him as an asshole with a gun.

The thing about right leaning anarchists like Kokesh: They sell the idea on stuff everyone likes to hear like drugs, guns, and other social issues but forget to mention the fine print.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

[ileus]

10. Shotgun ammo is about all you can find on shelves around here.

I did luck into 9mm and 40 yesterday.

[gejohnston]

12. managed to get a box of five seven

The place had a Ruger Bearcat and a Single Six, but the budget said no.

[oneshooter]

13. By leaving the house at 0530 and being at the store by 0630

I was second in line. 3 box limit, got 3-320rd boxes of Federal 22 Target.
Paid $13 per box +tax. Went to the Pasadena Gun Show last week and saw the same ammo at $45 per box.

[ileus]

15. my shilen barreled 10/22 will shoot that federal auto match

almost as well as eley match eps and 1/8 the price.

I pickup a box every time I see it on the shelf.

[rdharma]

17. It must be a sad world for gun huggers....

When finding a few boxes of ammo sends a shiver down their leg!

[ileus]

18. Naw man the fun comes when

we finally make it to the range.

The smiles on the kids faces (now 11 an 8) when they shoot the AR and SR. I bought the CMMG kit last year so the kids could enjoy their AR as much as me and the DW enjoy our AR's.

Last year I made a couple of crude steel plates to shoot with our pistols (1/4 plate steel cut in 15x20 rectangles) kind of like you see at the steel plate matches. The ring from those when we hit them makes everyone smile.

My son's been bugging me to finally get an AR upper to hunt with but I'm not sure that's going to happen before season comes. Before the panic set in I was thinking 300 blackout for a general purpose everything cartridge. Same bolt and mags means all we really need is a barrel and I could use one of our 556 uppers we already have, or I could just spring for the parts and built a complete upper.

Most of our shots are in the 30-170 yard range for deer and turkey, it would also be ideal for coyotes. It would also make a great HD firearm over the 556 I keep bedside now. The fact you can also buy sub-sonic ammo (or roll your own) and invest in a can would make it a great HD firearm. If I decided to spring for a SBR stamp also it would be the best of both worlds. Hunting, plinking, HD SBR'd and suppressed the perfect general purpose rifle. Just coming up with the 1k for a can and 400 bucks in tax stamps kinda puts a damper on the ultimate project. I'll probably do a budget build instead.

Oh look at me I've rambled on and on and run off the rails of my own post, did I mention football camp starts tomorrow...LOL Between fishing, bike rides, swimming and motocross it's hard for us to find the time to hit the range but when we do it's fun for the whole family.

Edit forgot AAA baseball from our two local farm teams, I finally managed all the "free" tickets the kids love baseball night.

[rdharma]

19. An open carried short barreled AR-15 with silencer would be just the thing....

..... for those 2nd Amendment protests! Don't ya' think?

That would even impress Adam Kokesh.

[ileus]

21. That's just too much weight to OC.

While it would help even the odds over my little LCP I currently carry now I'm just not willing to OC any rifle. I'm worried most people would get the wrong idea if you OC'd in public with a can, they'd think you were just showing off.

I'm not much for bragging or showing off...people will ask about my jeep and I mostly just say "It does okay on the trail." LOL
Then I'll go down the list of mods after they inquire, and that speaks for itself.

[gejohnston]

14. any chance they could be cellmates

Besides getting away with a felony I would be charged with,
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/24/1218514/-David-Gregory-attacks-the-messenger

[rdharma]

20. Was David Gregory calling for a "revolution"......

..... like Adam Kokesh?

[gejohnston]

22. you missed the significance of the pic

IIRC, possessing a 30 round magazine is a felony in the District. No, Gregory doesn't strike me as a revolutionary.

[rdharma]

24. No, I didn't miss the significance of the pic you displayed.

It's an obvious attempt to distract from the original topic.

"Hey, folks! Look over there!"

[premium]

25. Wow,

this,

It's an obvious attempt to distract from the original topic.

Coming from Mr. Distraction himself.

[rdharma]

27. When all else fails.........

..... premium resorts to his favored Pee Wee Herman debate tactics!

[premium]

29. Uh huh.

This coming from someone who couldn't back up an accusation of another member, even though given ample opportunity and incentive.
What's the matter? Things not exciting enough over in the Castle?

[rdharma]

37. Another "broken record" approach" FAIL........

Remember what I taught you about attempting to continue an approach that has already failed. It is counter-productive.....

Slow learner, eh?

[premium]

38. Already failed?

This is pure comedy gold you got going on there rdharma.
The only fail is that you couldn't back up an accusation you made about another member with proof, despite the ample opportunity and incentive you were given.
Too effin funny.:jester

Tell you what, just because I'm a man of honor, I'm going to re-instate my offer of a $5,000.00 donation to either a gun control org. or charity of your choosing and I'll post proof of such donation, or, I'll send you a cashier's check in the same amount to spend as you see fit if you can post just one (1) link of me praising or applauding Gov. Sandoval's veto of the UBC bill. This offer is valid for one (1) week starting now to next Sunday morning.
Seems like a pretty fair deal.

Taught me something?

[rdharma]

40. A double FAIL......

premium, that was a very clumsy combination of "repetition and pride and ego down" approach.

As an experienced FLEO interviewer, you should know that if the "repetition approach" FAILED, .... the "pride and ego down" will also result in a big FAIL!

Neither of those will work on an individual with good self-control and self-confidence.

Also..... your delivery needs work. Your technique is that of an elementary school yard bully and very transparent.

You're disappointing me as a student!

[premium]

41. Just as I thought,

more baseless accusations, to be expected, but, the offer stands, quick money in your pocket if you can provide the proof.

No schoolyard bullying tactics here, just stating fact, I'm not threatening you in any way, shape or form, that's your perception, but it you think I am, then hit the alert button and see what a jury says.

BTW, you're not fooling anybody here.

[rdharma]

42. What accusations are you talking about?

I accused you of nothing. I merely pointed out your repeated failures in mastering basic interview techniques, my FLEO buddy!

[premium]

43. Uh huh.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172125963#post16

Offer stands, quick money if you can provide proof of that link I provided.
Come on rdharma, this is where the rubber meets the road.

BTW, your baiting, not working.

[rdharma]

44. Oh, I think it is!

[premium]

48. Naw,

I'm chuckling at your juvenile attempt, but thanks for admitting that your reason for being here is to bait members
Good luck.

[CokeMachine]

50. Good God --

All it takes is for you to admit you were wrong about Premium on that issue. Is your ego so big that even you can't even do that??

Your bait and other stuff is so juvenile you should be ashamed.

Bless your heart!!

[rdharma]

52. Two for the price of one. nt

[CokeMachine]

53. You are cool Bro!!

At least in your mind.

[premium]

54. He won't.

He thinks he's being cute with his juvenile little games, hoping to get one of us to say something that he can alert on and get a post hidden or a PPR.
He's one I would support Krispos42 blocking as he brings nothing but petty insults, snark and disruption to the table.
Let him have his fun, sooner or later it'll come back to bite him in the ass.

[CokeMachine]

55. I finally gave up on it and put it on ignore.

He isn't worth the time or energy.

[premium]

39. I've already provided proof contrary to your accusation,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172125963#post16

Here's my proof that I didn't.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014506776#post3

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172123824

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023010917#post7

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023010917#post9

Can you say the same thing?

[premium]

23. Irrelevant,

both broke D.C. law, if you're going to prosecute one, then you prosecute the other.

[rdharma]

26. Fact is...... neither Gregory or Kokesh has been prosecuted.

And I don't find the display of an empty magazine NEARLY as offensive or dangerously crazy as the loading and chambering of a shotgun in the center of Freedom Plaza (while urging fellow nut jobs to start a "revolution&quot .

How about you?

[premium]

28. Here's what you said in post #7,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172127282#post7

rdharma (2,799 posts)
7. Deserving of ridicule and contempt.........

..... and also arrest IMHO

If you arrest one, the you arrest the other also, they both committed a crime in D.C..
Offensive or dangerously crazy is irrelevant, they both committed a crime in D.C., both should have been arrested and prosecuted.

What I think is irrelevant to the application of the law.

[rdharma]

30. "dangerously crazy is irrelevant"

Oh? It's probably for the best that you aren't involved in LE these days.

[premium]

31. It's your description, not the law's description.

One offense is just as unlawful as the other. If you want to arrest one, then you should want to arrest the other, both committed unlawful acts within the borders of D.C..
You can't have it both ways, either you arrest and prosecute both based on the facts, or you don't, it's as simple as that.

You really make this too easy, I thought you would make a worthy opponent, but after careful consideration, you've failed miserably.

[jimmy the one]

45. I feel safe in new york city (ac/dc)

premium: If you arrest one, the you arrest the other also, they both committed a crime in D.C.. Offensive or dangerously crazy is irrelevant, they both committed a crime in D.C., both should have been arrested and prosecuted.

You argue absurdity. There is discretionary leeway to allow for the very circumstances you describe, this is a revelation to you? how old are you premium, thot you said you went to vn, that would make you 60ish, & you've never heard of discretion & leeway?
.. Oh, by the way, under your very own rules of engagement, unless you've lived in DC awhile you have no business preaching the rules: (premium):I live here, I have most of my life, I know what Nevada politics are, you don't, so, anything you opine about NV. politics, I'll take with a huge grain of salt -- I lived in wash dc suburbs 30 years, born in DC, so unless you lived in DC, which I doubt, I'd as soon throw you in the salt lake.

premium: One offense is just as unlawful as the other. If you want to arrest one, then you should want to arrest the other, both committed unlawful acts within the borders of DC. You can't have it both ways, either you arrest and prosecute both based on the facts, or you don't, it's as simple as that.

Your opinion is nonsense, violations vary & rules are subject to discretion, they're made to protect against true offenders due more probable cause to believe. That's why they have minimum & maximum prison sentences, to compensate for each case particulars. DUH. I suppose you'd rather have seen these 2 felonious monks get prison time, eh? or just glad they were arrested?

12/2011 {NYC wtc memorial} tourist from Tenn politely asked cop if she could check her weapon.. she was dragged out in cuffs. Meredith Graves, 39, facing at least three years in prison didn't realize that loaded (32c) pistol in her purse would be a problem until she saw a sign at {WTC memorial} “No guns allowed,”Graves full legal carry permit Tenn, locked up weapons-possession charge held $2,000 bond.. due court Mar19 2012. (the case where crushed aspirin mistaken for cocaine in her purse.)
(March 19, 2012), Meredith Graves — who attempted to check her gun before entering the 9/11 Memorial — pleaded guilty to criminal possession of a weapon, a misdemeanor, and will serve no jail time.. felony conviction min of 3½ years max of 15.

retired Marine Ryan Jerome facing criminal charges after unwittingly trying to check his Indiana handgun at Empire State blg.. Prosecutors offered Ryan Jerome a no-jail misdemeanor plea deal in apparent recognition of the special circumstances of his case…” .. "I definitely did not know it was illegal to bring a gun into NY City," Ryan Jerome, 29, after pleading guilty in Manhattan Criminal Court
>>> a bell rings about 'ignorance no excuse for the law'...

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

32. However...

...wouldn't it be nice to arrest some of the folks you find offensive?
Maybe that kind on contempt is behind some of the pro-control thinking.

[rdharma]

33. Offensive? No. .... Dangerous? Yes!

Did you notice that Kokesh timed his "show" when there was almost no traffic in Freedom Square?

I guarantee if his little "display" had been seen and reported by concerned citizenry, he would have been detained and probably cited/arrested by the DC police.

[premium]

35. As he should have been

and as David Gregory should have been.
Both violated D.C. firearm laws, both should have been arrested/cited and prosecuted.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

46. Other than...

...your recounting of him loading a shotgun in public, I don't know anything about it. Now you think it's not offensive? Reread your post #26. Looks like you said offensive there.

Seems like a stupid thing to do in DC. Kokesh is probably a real jackass.

[premium]

34. What I find funny

is he thinks he's being clever when he's really not.
He makes it so easy to debunk.

[shenmue]

36. Whatever happened to water guns and ping pong ball guns?

You know, the good stuff?

[rdharma]

56. Update: Kokesh arrested! nt