Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumArmed clerk shoots, kills armed robber, Toledo, OH
http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=967232#.UnsXSL7naos Video at linkTOLEDO, OH -- On Nov. 2, December Long was working as a store clerk at the Stop & Go at 3131 Sylvania Ave.
Police said around 9 p.m., Christopher Shockley attempted to rob the store at gun point, and Long grabbed a gun of her own from behind the counter.
"He came in to do the armed robbery. It turned into a gun fight," said Toledo Police Public Information Officer Joe Heffernan.
According to police, Shockley shot first, striking the clerk in the abdomen. Long then returned fire, hitting Shockley, and killing him.
More at link.
It is unclear from the article if Long grabbed for her gun before or after the robber fired. She is in the hospital and expected to recover. The armed robber had a prison record.
The community appears to be supportive of Long and praising her action.
seattle15
(45 posts)It is much more likely that the clerk's gun would have been used on the clerk so please lets not just throw out logic.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Somehow the anti-gun crowd seems to think that criminals are super-ninjas who can take citizen's guns away from the citizens and use it on the citizen.
Real world. Rarely happens the way you describe. The truth is that the typical street criminal is very poorly trained about guns. Most of them are terrible shots.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)If you can put up with the graphic security camera videos, you will see quite a few instances where thugs disrupt the normal flight pattern of bullets. Not too pretty.
On a side note, this one incident was posted in THIS group. Controller/banners REGULARLY post some incident "unfavorable" to lawful gun ownership and use in GD. Perhaps this is why you feel the OP is "one out of a million."
Would you like to see some of these videos in GD?
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)DonP
(6,185 posts)There is a steady stream of new and old local interest stories every week in GD about crimes with guns and accidents with no admonition to move them. I have no doubt the stories posted by GSC today would be closed immediately, since they don't support the oft promised innocent bystander bloodletting from any CCW usage.
All the while poor Castle Bansalot languishes with nothing new for days on end from its 90% of pro control supporters out there.
I also noticed no mention of the 65 NRA endorsed Virginia House Delegates that won Tuesday, just all about how McCauliffe's win with 48% of the vote and millions of Bloomberg $$, signals the death of the NRA's political influence ... again.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)on the Innertube thru Google, etc. Would DU allow such in the Gungeon, let alone GD? Up to now, this Group has shown remarkable diplomacy when following even the "adjusted" TOS in GD.It should be a lesson for all DUers as to how legitimate, resilient and above-board the Gungeon has been over the long haul.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Weird.
We (can I say "we"?) are supposed to be mentally unhinged, emotionally fragile bullies with inclinations towards ego-driven acting out. Nothing like the erudite, measured and detached souls against whom we are pitted.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)Those are the ones that MSM is predisposed to publish.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)And isn't this just a local issue anyway?
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)the fact that shots were fired is. The fact that it is a DGU, not as much since someplace between 100K and 2M take place each year without shots fired. It isn't the number of guns, it is the number of CCW holders or households with.
Yes it is a local story.
spin
(17,493 posts)By Peter Burke
Published On: Oct 29 2013 04:05:47 PM EDT
Updated On: Oct 30 2013 07:47:14 AM EDT
http://m.wpbf.com/news/store-clerk-shoots-armed-robbery-suspect-christopher-white/-
/17441430/22694942/-/b6qfiq/-/index.html
UPDATE: Accused Falkland Mini-mart Robber at Central Prison
Posted: Oct 08, 2013 10:08 PM EDT
Updated: Nov 06, 2013 11:47 AM EST
By Andrew Ruiz, Digital Journalist - email
http://www.wnct.com/story/23642148/armed-robbery-suspect-shot
Tifton store clerk shoots robber
by FOX 31 News Team
Posted: 09.20.2013 at 2:23 PM
http://www.mysouthwestga.com/news/story.aspx?id=949390#.UnsperK9KSM
I could probably find another dozen that happened in the last couple of months.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)and like almost all of their claims, all of which is depicted in movies and TV: provided no evidence and has been disproved by criminologists when actually studied the subject. BTW, there are more documented examples of the opposite.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Google is your friend, just type in defensive gun use and videos galore will pop up.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Clerk at a Stop & Go is pretty dangerous duty.
A friend I'd worked with at a machine shop who was fired and then worked for a convenience store drew his last breath after being shot at work during a robbery.
Get well soon, Ms. Long.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)parents of the clerk named her 'December'.