New movie will make NRA ‘wish they weren’t alive,’ says Obama backer Weinstein

[Ranchemp.]

Famed Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein is no stranger to controversy. But Weinstein says he’s turned his sights on his biggest target yet: the National Rifle Association.

“I shouldn’t say this. I’m going to make a movie with Meryl Streep, and we’re going to take this issue head-on and they’re going to wish they weren’t alive after I’m done with them,” Weinstein said during an interview with radio host Howard Stern Wednesday.

“I think the NRA is a disaster area,” Weinstein added, saying, “I don’t think we need guns in this country.”

Deadline Hollywood says the movie is currently titled “The Senator’s Wife” and will focus on the NRA’s successful attempts to lobby federal lawmakers against voting for gun control legislation.

http://news.yahoo.com/hollywood-obama-donor-says-new-movie-will-make-nra--wish-they-weren-t-alive-213902316.html

I find Mr. Weinstein to be a hypocrite, alot of the movies he produced are full of guns and violence, he made millions off those movies, yet slams the NRA and says that Americans shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

I seriously doubt that this film will scare the NRA or gun owners.

[Wait Wut]

1. I can accept your accusations of hypocrisy...

...but, I still have to disagree.

I play video/computer games. Some are quite violent. Yet, I believe in much stricter gun control. Unless you're killing zombies, undead nurses, out of control bad people wanting to ruin your day and steal your yacht, etc. Oh...and aliens. Definitely need to kill the aliens. The bad ones. Some are cool. I also enjoy some pretty violent movies. Just watched White House Down. Not a great movie, but I was glad to see the good guys won.

That said, I'm curious about this project. I read about it earlier this week.

[Ranchemp.]

4. There are some gun control initiatives I would like to see enacted,

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Universal background checks, mandatory annual training to keep your CCW active, stiffer penalties for straw purchases, stiffer penalties for crimes committed using a firearm, mental health screen prior to first purchase of a firearm, a national FOID card, much like Illinois has.

I wouldn't mind if all he did was go after the NRA, they're nothing more than a RW org., but he says that guns don't belong in this country, which means he doesn't believe that American's have a right to own firearms, that's crazy talk.

[Wait Wut]

5. It looks like we agree...

...on about 99.9% of the issues.

[spin]

18. I currently do not play first person shooter games and that is largely because I have a ...

concealed weapons permit.

I did play a few years ago but I started to worry that I was teaching myself to shoot first and ask questions later. Perhaps the games have improved in recent years.

I rarely watch violent movies because they are so unrealistic. Most are simply a rehash of Superman films where the hero has skills the average man does not possess. All I have to see is the hero fire 20 shots from a 6 shot revolver without reloading and I grow bored.

[jimmy the one]

2. who's the hypocrite

ranchemp: I find Mr. Weinstein to be a hypocrite, alot of the movies he produced are full of guns and violence, he made millions off those movies, yet slams the NRA and says that Americans shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

Duh, no hypocrite is weinstein - he shows how lethal guns can be in his films (ss in rambo), how much killing they can do & how they belong on battlefields not in communities.
I don't believe weinstein is actually saying americans should not be allowed to own guns, just that he thinks america would be safer without them & people are foolish to own them thinking they'll be more a boon than hazard (esp with young children in the home); Pls provide evidence for what you say, that weinstein said americans shouldn't be allowed to own guns, thanks.

I seriously doubt that this film will scare the NRA or gun owners.

That's not the intent of the film, which is moreso to expose the nra for what it is, a money hungry group of rightwing gunnutted pigs out to manipulate data & fabricate lies about guns being more useful than the hazards they truly are.

[Ranchemp.]

7. jimmy the one,

one of what?
Mr. Weinstein is a hypocrite, he's made millions on those films and I highly doubt he included firearms in his films to highlight how lethal guns are.
That's a ridiculous statement.

[gejohnston]

8. Are you sure you are not talking about MAIG?

That's not the intent of the film, which is moreso to expose the nra for what it is, a money hungry group of rightwing gunnutted pigs out to manipulate data & fabricate lies about guns being more useful than the hazards they truly are.

If so, you are missed how many Mayors Bloomberg loses to the criminal justice system each year.

[Common Sense Party]

11. Let's consult the dictionary, shall we?

hypocrite: a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs. Weinstein? Check.

1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Weinstein? Check. Check.

Yes, I'm sure he produces all the gun-filled shoot-em-up's as a community service, to teach us mindless plebes about how dangerous guns are. He doesn't do it because he knows that guns sell tickets, and that he makes a boatload of money off those films. He's all heart. What a guy.

[sarisataka]

12. So now Rambo is an anti-gun movie?

Does that mean "wannabe Rambo" will no longer be used as an epithet?

A quick look over Mr. Weinstein's credits shows an overwhelming majority of his movies involve the protagonist using major to extreme violence in the course of the show. Nearly all of those include gun use... But that isn't glorifying violence and is actually showing guns do not belong in communities

he thinks america would be safer without them & people are foolish to own them thinking they'll be more a boon than hazard

Yet his protagonists succeed by using guns...

[Straw Man]

13. OK.

Pls provide evidence for what you say, that weinstein said americans shouldn't be allowed to own guns, thanks.

“I think the NRA is a disaster area,” Weinstein added, saying, “I don’t think we need guns in this country.”

Of course, Mr. Weinstein might just be making this movie to express his stern disapproval. It's not as if he would actually push for legislation or anything like that.

Pull the other one: It's got bells on it.

[Ranchemp.]

14. Gee, jimmy the one, (one of what, I don't know),

Pls provide evidence for what you say, that weinstein said americans shouldn't be allowed to own guns, thanks.

maybe him saying this,

Weinstein added, saying, “I don’t think we need guns in this country.”

Think that could be it?

[Duckhunter935]

3. I agree

If anything it will backfire and make very little money

I guess those that like how he is doing this also will agree with his stand for Roman Polanski, or will they conveniently miss this part

[Ranchemp.]

9. Not only that,

but could trigger (pun intended) another round of firearms and ammo buying like in the past.
That would really piss him off.

[Common Sense Party]

6. Brought to you by Harvey Weinstein:

“I don’t think we need guns in this country.”

[Ranchemp.]

10. Yep, a hypocrite.

[ileus]

15. I never realized the NRA was a being...

Odd choice of wording...

[bossy22]

16. The NRA is not the same as the Tobacco Lobby

But that doesn't stop people like Mr. Weinstein from trying to use the same tactics as were used on big tobacco.

This film will come out and it will have a significant number of factual errors. It will portray the NRA as a "shill for the gun manufacturers". Mr. Weinstein will claim success and most of hollywood will agree. But after all of this is said and done they will have ignored a blinding reality- that the NRA doesn't get its power just from money. The NRA gets its power by its ability to play the "ground game" so well- the ability to get people to go to the poll, the ability to get people to rally, to go to hearings, etc... You can call them stupid/rednecks/hillbillies/retarded all you want but the fact is that NRA members vote and are more than willing to participate in the legislative process. Just ask the 3 colorado senators that no longer have a job.


You destroy the NRA another organization will take its place.

[DonP]

17. Come on guys! Gun control people spending their own money to see a movie?

Really!

Gun control "fans" won't spend a dime of their own money to support their "cause". That's what Nanny Bloomberg is there for, to write all the checks for them.

How many of them have ever actually written a check to Brady out of their own pocket? How many will spend $10+ plus popcorn to see an anti NRA movie?

Out of all the gun control "fans" we have here, how many have ever so much as paid to copy petitions for the repeal of CCW anywhere? The louder they shout, the less they seem to actually do in the real world.

Much easier to rant online about the NRA than do anything out there in the real world.

Weinstein can make any movie he wants to, with Streep doing nude scenes on the Empire State Building, and he still won't draw flies.

But I'm sure they'll give him an Academy Award for it, whatever it is, for his "courage". Now please don't crowd his security detail please.

[petronius]

19. *** Spoiler Warning *** *** Spoiler Warning *** *** Spoiler Warning ***

Highlight below to reveal spoiler:

[div style="color:#ccc; background-color: #ccc; display: inline;"]The movie is 20 hours long, and nothing actually happens in the end.

[sarisataka]

20. Other upcoming Harvey Weinstein films

Include:
Kill Bill: Vol. 3 (producer) (announced)
The Crow (executive producer) (pre-production)
2014 Sin City: A Dame to Kill For (executive producer) (post-production)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005544/?ref_=nv_sr_3

Weinstein made a distinction between a movie like “Lone Survivor,” about the U.S. special forces, which he said he would make, and “some crazy action movie, just for the sake of blowing up people.”

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/harvey-weinstein-says-hell-choose-less-violent-projects-1201062625/

I wonder if he will drop Kill Bill: Vol. 3 and Halloween III, two announced films that have not started and feature gratuitous violence?
Interestingly The Senator's Wife has no listing on IMDB either as announced or planned. It might be quite a while before it is in theaters.

[Eleanors38]

21. Major movie theme: Redemption. He's ready-made for it.

[jimmy the one]

22. Nixon similarities to Weinstein

ranch emperor: jimmy the one, one of what?

google, it's an english naval term, albeit derived from james the first.

ranch: Mr. Weinstein is a hypocrite, he's made millions on those films and I highly doubt he included firearms in his films to highlight how lethal guns are. That's a ridiculous statement

Whether he intended or not, that is an end result; Anyone who gives rambo movies much credibility is delusionary anyway. If weinstein were investing in s&w or ruger it'd be different (outside of indirectly via money mkts etc).
Richard Nixon escalated the vietnam war by conscription & sending hundreds of thousands of men & women there & equipping them with rifles & grenades & napalm for killing - then nixon said something like handguns should be banned in america - that didn't make nixon a hypocrite for arming american citizens with the best small arms available while concomittantly calling for gun control.

previous ranchemp: I find Mr. Weinstein to be a hypocrite .. slams the NRA and says that Americans shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
jto: Pls provide evidence for what you say, that weinstein said americans shouldn't be allowed to own guns, thanks.
ranchemp: maybe him saying this[:] Weinstein added, saying, “I don’t think we need guns in this country.”

Faulty reasoning on your part; Where did weinstein say americans shouldn't be allowed to own guns? You provide his opinion about 'needing' guns in america, not that he ever expressed what you said he said. You misrepresent what he said. Many people would say Americans don't need tobacco/cigarettes, while not calling for a proscription.
I don't think the world needs nuclear weapons, but I don't think they should be disallowed countries so long as others have them as well.
You distort what weinstein said; whether weinstein thinks americans shouldn't have guns, has not been proven by you or the other gn's on this thread - maybe he indeed doesn't, but you must prove that he said americans shouldn't be ALLOWED to OWN guns, or else you hold onto the LIE you told.
Incongruity I will grant, but not hypocrisy.