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Related: About this forumMore Cities Consider Gun Control
Mattie Scott stands in front of a packed house at the Mountain View City Council Chambers. Shes here to talk about her son and nephew, both of whom were killed in gun violence. As she tells her and the boys story, someone in the back shouts, Youre disgusting!
Another woman speaks about the gut-wrenching loss of her child, who was also shot and killed. Like Scott, she has come here to advocate for better gun control in her community. But not everyone has the same agenda. In the back of the chambers, a group of mostly white men are here to shout them down.
Some hold protest signs, while others wear yellow Star of David armbands. They are the persecutednot the dead. Before the meeting ends, one of these men will tell Scott, an African American, to go back to where you came from.
Said one attendee, I think there should have been a metal detector.
http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2014/02/25/sunnyvale-gun-control-measure-inspires-nearby-cities/
Another woman speaks about the gut-wrenching loss of her child, who was also shot and killed. Like Scott, she has come here to advocate for better gun control in her community. But not everyone has the same agenda. In the back of the chambers, a group of mostly white men are here to shout them down.
Some hold protest signs, while others wear yellow Star of David armbands. They are the persecutednot the dead. Before the meeting ends, one of these men will tell Scott, an African American, to go back to where you came from.
Said one attendee, I think there should have been a metal detector.
http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2014/02/25/sunnyvale-gun-control-measure-inspires-nearby-cities/
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More Cities Consider Gun Control (Original Post)
SecularMotion
Feb 2014
OP
"Use of the term 'gun nuts' immediately disqualifies this article as journalism."
Nuclear Unicorn
Mar 2014
#6
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)1. fine example of unethical journalism
but then, their role models are criminals like David Gregory and assholes like Piers Morgan, the media is no longer journalism.
http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2014/02/25/sunnyvale-gun-control-measure-inspires-nearby-cities/
This Feb. 8 meeting, held three months after Sunnyvale passed Measure C, a municipal gun-control ordinance, is only the beginning. Communities in Silicon Valley have unexpectedly become ground zero for gun nuts and the malevolent NRA, as towns like Los Gatos and Cupertino consider measures similar to Sunnyvales, which restricts the size of gun clips and requires greater record-keeping of firearms.
This isn't journalism. Journalism reports accurate information, accurately and honestly explains each side's view and let the voters decide for themselves. This is some Piers Morgan wantabee causing I.F. Stone to roll over in his grave.
It reminded me of this post at Ethics Alarms
http://ethicsalarms.com/2012/12/28/the-medias-gun-control-ethics-train-wreck-gets-its-engineer-david-gregory/
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)2. Use of the term "gun nuts" immediately disqualifies this article as journalism.
There have been stupid local government representatives as long as there have been local governments.
"In the wake of Newtown" types of legislation are inherently weak and prone to disaster.
We need to legislate with reason, not emotion, or at least with a reasonable balance between the two.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)6. "Use of the term 'gun nuts' immediately disqualifies this article as journalism."
It's also the sole qualifier as to why it was cited by the OP as authoritative.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)3. "Officer Anonymous" wrote a sensible reply:
Officer Anonymous Feb 26, 2014 @ 10:33 pm
Here is a link to a Harvard Law study which shows an inverse corellation between gun ownership and homicide/suicide.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
And here is a link to an aggregation of statistics on gun ownership, crime distribution, relevant federal and local laws and some interesting issues not covered by law. I find it particularly troubling that the authors note that, as of 2010, federal law did NOT prohibit members of terrorist organizations from purchasing or possessing firearms or explosives. I find the following even more troubling: * Between February 2004 and February 2010, 1,225 firearm and three explosives background checks for people on terrorist watch lists were processed through the federal background check system. Of these, 91% of the firearm transactions and 100% of the explosives transactions were allowed.
Some other relevant facts from the website:
1. A 1994 survey conducted by the US CDC foudn that Americans had used firearms to frighten away home-invasion robbers nearly half a million times each year which is approximately 2700% greater than the total number of the CDCs estimate of gun-related accidents that resulted in death or an ER visit (18,498) in 2001 (the first year such comparisons were possible).
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
For those skeptics, please see the endnotes which include definitions and details of the relevant studies and date collected.
Here is a link to a Harvard Law study which shows an inverse corellation between gun ownership and homicide/suicide.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
And here is a link to an aggregation of statistics on gun ownership, crime distribution, relevant federal and local laws and some interesting issues not covered by law. I find it particularly troubling that the authors note that, as of 2010, federal law did NOT prohibit members of terrorist organizations from purchasing or possessing firearms or explosives. I find the following even more troubling: * Between February 2004 and February 2010, 1,225 firearm and three explosives background checks for people on terrorist watch lists were processed through the federal background check system. Of these, 91% of the firearm transactions and 100% of the explosives transactions were allowed.
Some other relevant facts from the website:
1. A 1994 survey conducted by the US CDC foudn that Americans had used firearms to frighten away home-invasion robbers nearly half a million times each year which is approximately 2700% greater than the total number of the CDCs estimate of gun-related accidents that resulted in death or an ER visit (18,498) in 2001 (the first year such comparisons were possible).
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
For those skeptics, please see the endnotes which include definitions and details of the relevant studies and date collected.
beevul
(12,194 posts)4. Advocacy journalism.
About guns.
Shocking.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)5. Sounds like normal gun-control agitprop Newz to me.