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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/guns-bullying-open-carry-women-moms-texasOpen Carry Texas takes pains to convey a clean, friendly image in the press. Last November, the group made national news after some 40 members armed with assault rifles showed up outside an Arlington, Texas, restaurant where four women from Moms Demand Action were having lunch. The group released a statement saying it was being misunderstood: "In reality, the peaceful gun owners were posing for a photo." After a rally outside Austin City Hall this April, Grisham told the Texas Tribune, "We're not out there to bait police officers or to scare the community. We wave, we smile, we hand out fliers. If we see someone who seems really nervous, well talk to them."
What the group hasn't publicized are some of its members' more degrading antics. In March, a group of them held a "mad minute" at a firing range, pulverizing a female mannequin with a hail of bullets. They positioned the figure with her hands raised in surrender, naked from the waist up. Afterward, they posed with the bullet-riddled mannequin, her arms blown off and her pants down at her ankles. "Mad minute" is a military expression referring to a burst of rapid fire, and Open Carry Texas members have often referred to Moms Demand Action as "mad moms."
Four of the men who shot up the mannequin were present at the Arlington restaurant, including one listed by Open Carry Texas as a board member and the group's Director of Operations.
Grisham said he was not part of the group at the gun range, but when the mannequin video was posted on Facebook, he commented: "Warms the cockles of my heart." Recently he called women from Moms Demand Action "ignorant, retarded people," and last fall he referred to them as "thugs with jugs."
randys1
(16,286 posts)I thought a physical and severe reaction to him was necessary then, that if ANY person EVER in the HISTORY of the USA had done that to ANY other President, the entire country would have been in an uproar, the person arrested never to be seen or heard from again.
What happened to that pile of shit when he did that?
N O T H I N G
same as the morons in Nevada,. are they still there by the way?
Jesus fucking christ on a god damn stick.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Did you know that Bloomberg hired Watt's company Popvox Public Relations (which she formed after retiring from Wellpoint as head of PR (before that she top PR executive at Monsanto) to create MDA?
stone space
(6,498 posts)Does anything that you said justify anything in the OP?
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)actually happened.
stone space
(6,498 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Basically, its a demonetization campaign. What they are trying to do is smear gun owner= misogynist. Ask yourself, where did MDA get the video, and is there any evidence that any of these people are who MDA claims in this video? If they are not, who are they? What is the context?
http://jonathanturley.org/2012/06/17/propaganda-102-holly-would-and-the-power-of-images/
The entire series is worth a read.
more:
http://www.propagandatheory.com/types-of-propaganda/215/
To be blunt: Bloomberg has a lot of money, but no grassroots support. MDA protesters are paid to show up, and a fiction created by Voxpop. He doesn't have public support. He doesn't have facts or reason either. All he has left is dishonesty. My question is did Watts use similar techniques against organic farmers while working for Monsanto?
stone space
(6,498 posts)These gun fetishists seem to think that such videos show them in a good light, for some bizarre reason. They have proven this over and over and over again.
Why do you think this has suddenly changed?
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)there is nothing like it on OCT's channel. The link is on MJ's channel, with a MJ water mark embedded in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/user/OpenCarryTexas
So one or two person's puts shooting up iPads, so what?
Sorry, there is no evidence to link that video to OCT or anyone else other than MJ. Like anything else, innocent until proven guilty.
stone space
(6,498 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)It was obviously Mitt Romney saying it. I doubt he has a twin.
Here is how it works with me: I actually don't trust the right or left that much. I have this problem with putting reason before dogma and principle before ideology/party.
Most of my views are left of center, and I vote for Democrats. That does not mean that I blindly believe everything MJ or MSNBC tells me. Doing so would would put me in the same category as the unthinking fools that blindly believe Rush and Fox without any question. I refuse to do that.
Clear?
stone space
(6,498 posts)From Open Carry Texas or from Mitt Romney.
You and I both know that, so it's not worth quibbling about here and now.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)about it being violating a wiretap law. What are the odds of OCT being MJ readers?
stone space
(6,498 posts)...don't read MJ and never hear about the news.
Good thing that OCT has you looking out for them. Otherwise they might never find out about these fake videos and the fake photo.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Who reads or watches partisan media? Partisans. MOst conservatives watch Fox and read WND and most progressives watch MSNBC and read MJ for the same reason: get their confirmation bias fix. How many progressives do you know watch Fox? Conservatives watch MSNBC for other than the prison shows and Morning Joe?
stone space
(6,498 posts)Your denial means nothing.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)there is a difference.
stone space
(6,498 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)Also old news from a weeks ago thread...
stone space
(6,498 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:25 PM - Edit history (1)
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Using the same tired guilt by association tricks to try to make their case as the rest of the gun control community.
Pathetic.
stone space
(6,498 posts)blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)Maybe they don't have a coherent argument so all they can do is fall back on emotion.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)The video is on MJ's channel with MJ water mark. I looked through OCT's YT channel, there is nothing like it there. Still not proof.
stone space
(6,498 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)you would accuse them of lying. It isn't up to them to prove their innocence. It is up to MJ to prove it is theirs. There is more evidence that MJ made it.
stone space
(6,498 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Maybe. It's like the deal with this Army guy that got sprung from Afghanistan. The Republicans and the media is claiming that he went AWOL and deserted. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. I don't have the slightest idea, and neither do those assholes on Fox.
The media doesn't do news or journalism, they do infotainment. I'm sure CID is investigating. As far as I am concerned, he is a returned PoW until if or when he is convicted in a general court martial.
Same rules apply.
stone space
(6,498 posts)As for the question you raise regarding desertion, I'm in favor.
I'm opposed to war.