Burgers and Bullets and Machine Guns: Family Fun time? #1 of 575 Tripadvisor attractions in LV....

[Fred Sanders]

Not only can you have your youngster fire away at realistic critters and exploding targets, you can ride on an ATV and fire away with a .50 Browning .50 cal fully automatic machine gun....what says family time better than that? Except burgers and beer, which we also have!

And all in the company of certified gun instructors. What could go wrong?

Click it and weep for the sanity of the nation:


http://bulletsandburgers.com

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[blueridge3210]

1. All legal. Expensive, maybe. But legal.

Your problem with this is?

[Lurks Often]

2. I can see a few that I'd like to shoot, what about everybody else?

I'd want to shoot the Bren Gun, the Maxim, the Browning M2 .50 caliber and the Thompson.

[Duckhunter935]

5. Those are good choices

I would not mind adding the M60, have not fired one in many years. I think the Thompson would be a blast.

legal and controlled, one accident in many years.

I guess we should ban roller coasters and close Six Flags.
Woman killed on Six Flags Texas roller coaster identified
She was riding The Texas Giant, the tallest steel-hybrid roller coaster in the world when she somehow fell from the ride as her young son sat by her side. Esparza expressed concern, according to witnesses, about her lap bar not being secure. Several other witnesses on social media immediately after the incident said it appeared her restraint either broke or came loose. Investigators have yet to confirm it though.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/woman-killed-on-six-flags-texas-roller-coaster-identified/

[ManiacJoe]

16. The Thompson would be fun.

Virtually no recoil due to it being as heavy as it is. It climbs like crazy though.

Is the .50 ammo still around $4 per round?

[Lurks Often]

17. About that, the days of cheap surplus seem to be long gone

except maybe for some of the Russian calibers

[DashOneBravo]

48. My choice

You guys should see the new M60 E4. No more "fire a burst of six".

[tularetom]

3. Personally I have no problem with it

But I can see how the family of the instructor who got his head blowed off by the 9 yr old kid with the Uzi might have.

It is indeed legal. But somebody fucked up. And B&B will have to deal with it, legally and financially, because you know there's going to be lawsuits.

[Lurks Often]

4. Can't be too good a book if you can't even find it on Amazon

[NYC_SKP]

6. Why send them traffic? You link to their actual website, no consequence.

but a gun rights supporter links to an actual broadcast commercial by request of another member and their post is hidden.

Ah well, at least I'm on the winning side IRL.

[Duckhunter935]

13. It is strange

but I am never surprised anymore

[ileus]

7. Sounds expensive....we'll stick to shooting my own reloads and firearms.

This does remind me I need to pick up a scope for my sons 7mm08 for Va's youth day at the end of this month.


Out of fishing season right into hunting season...

[NYC_SKP]

19. I think the proximity to Las Vegas helps explain it. Gambling and excess...

High rollers can afford stupid expensive things like taking a helicopter over to shoot full auto on some make-believe mission.

People throwing money away, that's the mindset in LV, IMHO.

[Fred Sanders]

8. All those equating gun deaths with other types of deaths can explain the logic here.......[.......].

[IronGate]

9. The logic being that death is death,

no matter what the method is.

[clffrdjk]

10. No no no a gun death is far more tragic why can't you see that?

The other thousands of deaths just don't matter because this guy died when he failed to do his job at the range.

[IronGate]

12. Oh mercy me,

I forgot that gun deaths are different than death from say, a knife attack, a baseball bat attack, a drowning, a car accident, a poisoning, etc.

[clffrdjk]

15. See now you are getting it.

[Fred Sanders]

21. I get a gun is designed to be a powerful weapon, preferred by militaries over knives and bats....

[clffrdjk]

22. You are far out of date

Explosives are the perfered weapons now and have been for a long time.

[Fred Sanders]

23. Made me laugh....what are bullets if not explosives?

[Duckhunter935]

24. lead or or some type of alloy

the powder in the case explodes to propel the bullet, whatever it is made of.

[sarisataka]

28. Not even that...

modern gun powder is a flammable solid. It burns rapidly, producing large quantities of gas which propel the bullet (which is inert metal). The primers are explosive, primarily lead styphnate but are extremely small. It takes a large quantity of primers to sympathetic detonate to cause harm or significant damage.
Black powder is an explosive.

In practical terms, this only matters to chemists and those of us with Hazmat certification. DOT is extremely fussy about what types of materials can be transported together and in what quantities

[Duckhunter935]

29. I stand corrected, thanks

[DonP]

33. IIRC correctly it's not classified as explosive but as an "Oxidizer"

Black powder is explosive but smokeless is not, that's why you can ship it by mail or FedEx in most places.

[sarisataka]

35. I forget if it can be

Classed as an oxidizer. I believe very small quantities of black powder might, if I remember my chemistry.

I am used to bulk loads more than small quantity.
Black powder is placarded as explosive 1.1 with a category C IIRC. 1.1 is the most dangerous for detonation risk ; the C, or other letter, tells you what can be in the same load.

Smokeless powder is 1.4 C. Still a risk, but less so. It will not all go up at once without an ignition source. Even though both are classed C, you cannot mix items with different numbers without special ability to keep them separate.

I do know consumer use hazmat is classified ORM D. You can even see that in stores, such as on cases of aerosol cans. A cannister or two of powder might get an ORM D label, allowing commercial ground shipping.

[oneshooter]

36. Smokeles powder is considered a Class C flamable solid. n/t

[sarisataka]

37. oops

I was thinking ammunition.
Always consult the book

[IronGate]

34. Ya know,

someone who doesn't know what they're talking about should really refrain from talking about what they don't know.
Just sayin'

[friendly_iconoclast]

38. Cough, cough...Dunning-Kruger effect...ahem

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2702783/

"Why the Unskilled Are Unaware: Further Explorations of (Absent) Self-Insight Among the Incompetent"

D-K effect seems to be endemic in--shall we say--'control-oriented' circles here at DU

[friendly_iconoclast]

39. ...not to mention that, according to some, they make people doubleplus dead!

Of course, the rest of us know that dead is dead.

[Fred Sanders]

40. I am delighted that so many on my thread are enjoying playing with their strawmen, kind of makes

my point for me.

Enjoy your self manufactured playmate. It will be right here on the thread for your return day after day.

Really, enjoy, I know I am watching you play.

[friendly_iconoclast]

43. It's more like watching the Harlem Globetrotters- and you're not the Globetrotters...

[DonP]

47. That would be the "Washington Generals"

[IronGate]

46. It's more like watching the LA Lakers, that being us,

taking on a Jr. High basketball team, that being you.

[Eleanors38]

11. [agreed].

[Duckhunter935]

14. The other deaths are not important

That is what I seem to see. As they never ever put this much effort in presenting other deaths.

[Lurks Often]

18. It's because they are hypocrites

it isn't about the deaths, it's all about the evil gunz!!!!!

They don't seem to care too much about the gun deaths in the inner cities either, it seems that their focus is on the legally owned guns.

[ileus]

25. Dead is dead?

[The Green Manalishi]

20. Stupid high prices

$199, 75 rounds?

[Niceguy1]

26. oh the joy of being able to spend the afternoon

Firing a 50 cal and not have to carry it, clean it, or pick up the brass...

Sigh...

[ManiacJoe]

27. Love those parts about rental weapons!

The down side is that they often are not cleaned as frequently as they should be.

[Duckhunter935]

30. Do not miss cleaning them

blanks in an M60 can be very dirty

[Niceguy1]

31. I avoided firing blanks as much as I could

In any weapon, love to give my ammo to my buddies. I always seem to finish cleaning first lol

[Duckhunter935]

32. Blast to shoot

pain to clean, very smart of you.

[friendly_iconoclast]

41. Aww, Fred-you're backsliding. We discussed this yesterday, remember?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5483731

#4: EMPHASIZE THAT EXTRAORDINARILY DANGEROUS, MILITARY-STYLE
WEAPONS ARE NOW WITHIN EASY REACH ACROSS AMERICA.

#1: ALWAYS FOCUS ON EMOTIONAL AND VALUE-DRIVEN
ARGUMENTS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE, NOT THE POLITICAL
FOOD FIGHT IN WASHINGTON OR WONKY STATISTICS.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5483823

Fred Sanders (3,771 posts)
270. Thanks for the info., I will be sure be better prepared for my next post, thanks again.....

It's not permanent-just take a deep breath and say to yourself "I will stop
posting stuff that reads as if was written by a third-rate copywriter in a fourth-rate
PR firm".

Even Shannon Watts did better before she started working for a megalomaniac
billionaire, so I have every faith in you

[Fred Sanders]

42. Your number of posts seems to indicate you are very concerned about my level of literacy, actions

do speak louder than words.

[friendly_iconoclast]

44. You're filling the role formerly played by a bicyclist/ex-robber/self-proclaimed firearms...

expert/telepsychologist, so you have big shoes to fill. I just want you to do it
correctly.

You could do worse-you could channel a certain verbose transphobic
ex-lawyer/World's Foremost Authority On Everything She Posted About...

[beevul]

45. "so you have big shoes to fill"

"so you have big shoes to fill"

More specifically, you have to learn to complain about gun porn at every opportunity, post pics of people with guns at every opportunity, field strip a 45 underwater, and be able to identify people carrying concealed at 10 paces.