Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forum"US Active-Shooter Cases Spike at a 'Troubling' Rate"
Let us have an honest discussion of this topic in an open group.
The devil is in the details. And now we have to add a new term, "active shootings" to the list of new terms to debunk, like "assault rifles" or "assault weapons".
I suspect cherry picked data and clever misuse of terminology.
Sep 24, 2014, 4:10 PM ET
BY PIERRE THOMAS, JACK CLOHERTY and MIKE LEVINE
"Active-shooter incidents" in the United States are increasing in frequency, according to an FBI study of the 160 such attacks in the country between 2000 and 2013.
During the first 7 years included in the study, an average of 6.4 incidents occurred annually, the report notes. In the last 7 years that average increased to 16.4 incidents annually.
In a pad-and-pencil briefing with reporters today, FBI Assistant Director James F. Yacone called the acceleration of incidents troubling.
The comprehensive study would provide an important baseline that will help the FBI and state and local police respond to the shootings, and in some cases, even prevent them, he added.
The study found there have been active-shooting incidents in 40 of the 50 states and the District of Columbia, and they occur in big cities, small towns and rural areas. While most took place in business or school environments, there were also mass shootings in military and other government property, health care facilities and houses of worship.
The FBI study reports a total of 1,043 casualties in the 160 mass shootings: 468 people were killed, and 557 wounded, excluding the shooters. In the 45 incidents in which law enforcement officers were able to engage the shooter, nine officers were killed and 28 wounded. Yacone said that the FBI is helping local law enforcement with advanced equipment and training for confronting mass shooters.
More:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/us-deadly-mass-shootings-spike-troubling-rate/story?id=25736640
Off to bed soon.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)3 or more killed in a single incident. Didn't the FBI use 4 or more as the standard for a mass murder? Did that change, or am I mistaken about the criterium?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder/serial-murder-1#two
Sounds like they are trying to make it sound worse by changing the definition and I am sure skewing the numbers for a point.
ileus
(15,396 posts)It helps sink their hater hooks into the emotional.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)"mass shooting," one source cited the shootings in Birmingham the other day in which 2 were killed. This doesn't comport with even the new & imoroved definition. Another source conflated "mass shooting" with "active shooter."
Sounds like Defense spending accounting: Reduce spending by rearranging the definitions.
ileus
(15,396 posts)The #1 thing I took away from our "guns free" hospital was that our best defense was to, Run, Hide, Barricade. As a last resort, find a pen to stab the shooter in the throat.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)be considered a high capacity assault pen?
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Everything I'm reading so far looks skewed and biased, no links to the actual data; just opinions.
The "trend" also seems very much to depend on a new and narrow definition of something called an "active shooting".
Basically, they look at the data and filter it in as many different ways as possible until they find something that fits the narrative or shows an increase.
I.E: What if we look at shootings in confined places that last under 15 minutes? If that doesn't work try something else until you find what you want.
This is how you justify a war or any other political action, you lie or make the facts fit your agenda.
They are even including incidents in which nobody is injured:
So I went to the FBI website and found their article: http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/september/fbi-releases-study-on-active-shooter-incidents/fbi-releases-study-on-active-shooter-incidents
The 47 page PDF study is here: http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/september/fbi-releases-study-on-active-shooter-incidents/pdfs/a-study-of-active-shooter-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-09-24/fbi-identifies-160-mass-shooting-incidents-since-2000
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.617725
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/09/24/fbi-releases-report-mass-shootings/acFPd1StAfZlnA2vTWWu4O/story.html
These incidents, the large majority of them, are over in minutes. So its going to have to be a teaching and training of the best tactics, techniques, and procedures to our state and local partners, said James F. Yacone, an FBI assistant director who oversees crisis response and was involved in the report.
The report focused on what the FBI calls active shooter incidents, cases in which a gunman in an attack shoots multiple people in a populated area. It excluded shootings that are gang or drug-related, involve self-defense, or are contained domestic disputes.