3-year-old boy critical after apparent accidental shooting (San Antonio)

[Electric Monk]

A 3-year-old boy is in critical condition after an apparent accidental shooting Saturday morning.

A San Antonio Police Department spokesman says the boy apparently shot himself after getting is hands on a gun.

more (not much)
http://www.ksat.com/content/pns/ksat/news/2015/05/09/sapd-investigates-shooting-of-3-year-old.html

If only there had been a good guy with a gun to help this innocent kid defend himself

[SoCalMusicLover]

1. At Least Nobody Took Away His Guns

Kids are more replaceable to some.

[GGJohn]

5. Really?

And just who said that?

[Eleanors38]

17. So socal, how do you feel about the kid? Anything? nt

[SoCalMusicLover]

38. Feel About The Kid?

I feel bad for the kid, who may now die.

Perhaps if the person who left the gun accessible to the kid had felt concerned for the kid's well being, he would still be unhurt.

I assure you the gun owner has regrets and feels bad, but I doubt they feel bad enough to give up their gun. So yes, for some a child can be replaced, but a gun, not so much.

[daleanime]

2. K&R.....

[msongs]

3. shootings are never accidental, there is always a chain of events cause nt

[GGJohn]

6. That we can agree on. eom.

[3catwoman3]

8. If a young child has access to a loaded gun, it is...

...not an accident. It is negligence.

I hope he makes it.

[GGJohn]

4. Pulling for this child to make a full recovery.

Your little snarky comment is bullshit!!!!

And you and your ilk accuse us of being uncaring?

[Eleanors38]

16. I wonder if the OP is aware of the tactical strategy switch of controllers...

wherein they relish taking advantage of a tragedy to somehow "Shame®" their enemies by blaming the actions of the few on the millions who are not at fault.

In don't think these posters realize that few folks in DU go for that extremist approach, and that it discredits their "cause."

Poor kid.

[Duckhunter935]

48. Yes I agree with you

The snarky comment is just over the top bad taste and I would think that host should edit his post

Hope the child pulls through and they charge the negligent owner.

[GGJohn]

7. A little boy is fighting for his life and not one of you controllers express any sympathy or

encouragement to him, instead, you post some fucking sick comment.
You really should be ashamed of yourselves.

[Shamash]

9. For thEM, it's all about waving the bloody shirt. n/t

[blueridge3210]

10. Business as ususal. (nt)

[Duckhunter935]

49. Not surprised though

[ileus]

13. They need and want things like this to happen, they think it proves something.

It only reinforces my assertion that the pro 2A side are much more compassionate and caring about the total human experience, and all of humanity not just those we agree with. Now that's progressive.

[GGJohn]

14. +1000. eom.

[Electric Monk]

18. Of course we care. You say "how tragic" while we say "let's stop this from happening again". nt

[ileus]

26. I always include the solution to events like this.

[Electric Monk]

19. Of course we care. You say "how tragic" while we say "let's stop this from happening again". nt

[GGJohn]

20. Yeah?

Except that's not what you posted in your thread, you chose to post some sick fucking comment instead of sympathy or encouragement for the child.

[beevul]

21. Thats disingenuous. In the interest of accuracy...

You say "how tragic" while we say "let's stop this from happening again"

Here, let me fix it for you:

"Let's stop this from happening again", but we are only interested in one single means of stopping it. As our SOP in the other group says, we have our minds made up."

[hack89]

22. We say the same thing

You just can't abide with the notion that our solution is different than yours.

[Electric Monk]

23. The solution to America's gun problem is not more guns

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

25. WE NEED MORE 'TOONS, 'TOONS I say!

I mean cowbell! I gotta fever and...

[friendly_iconoclast]

28. Reposting cartoons is far easier than actual activism-which is why controllers love them

That, and palming off dodgy reportage as gospel truth:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172145999#op

[friendly_iconoclast]

27. An observation that *might* have relevance if someone here actually felt that way...

[hack89]

29. And who here has ever offered that as a solution? Nt

[Electric Monk]

30. Didn't Mary Rosh write a book paraphrasing it as the title? "Moar Gunz because Gunz! Woot!"

or something like that

We're getting kind of off topic now from the story in the OP, though.

[hack89]

31. The real topic is you waving the bloody shirt again to push your agenda

not sure what the point of your op is. Flamebait with an inflammatory statement and no meaningful commentary has only one purpose and it is not finding common ground to solve a real problem.

[beevul]

34. I see the head hunting continues.

The bar for infraction seems to have been lowered a bit, judging by the hides.

Flamebait with an inflammatory statement and no meaningful commentary has only one purpose and it is not finding common ground to solve a real problem.

One side seems explicitly allowed such, while posters on the other side of the issue get posts hidden for far less.


I'm sure its all coincidental.


It does however, serve to strengthen my resolve, and basically confirms to me that those on the other side with few exceptions, are bad actors.

[friendly_iconoclast]

36. I'm okay with it; the blatant cultural warfare, along with the appeals to emotion and ridicule...

...serve a useful purpose.

Just not the one intended by the controllers. May the snark, hostility, and cartoons never cease!

[friendly_iconoclast]

35. (S)he's not a DUer. For quotes from actual DU members, see:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11729858

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

37. For the most part all of those are from members...

...but now and then I find something that strikes my fancy from a non-member and add that as well.

[friendly_iconoclast]

39. *We* are supposed to wear others' stupid and/or hateful statements...

...while the like from controllers goes unremarked

[Eleanors38]

44. Gee, I miss the Stormy Kromer hat.

[Ghost in the Machine]

40. Hello hack89, you and I have disagreed on some issues in the past but we have also agreed on other

issues, so I want to ask your opinion on something. Can anyone explain *why* posts #24 & #32 were hidden?? I, personally, don't see anything "disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate." about them. Nor do I see any personal attacks (which I don't see in the alert, but thought it was worth a mention).

**NOTE**: I'm not "whining" about a jury decision as I have no skin in this, I'm just trying to understand *why* they were hidden. I see a LOT of hidden posts where someone will post the email with the jury decision, but not so in this case.

Peace,

Ghost

[Lurks Often]

41. I'll chime in with an answer

Those in favor of gun control will often alert on any post by someone who is pro-gun when they think they can a hide from a jury. Combine that with some that will hide ANY post by someone who is pro-gun even if the post is not "disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate" and you will see some "cheap" hides on posts.

[Ghost in the Machine]

46. Thanks, Lurks Often...

I started to see that as I looked deeper into some other posts. It looks like they are purposely trying to get some posters put on a "time out" for hidden posts. I haven't had a post hidden in over 2 years, but I was a little apprehensive about someone alerting on my question about why those posts were hidden.

Peace,

Ghost

[Eleanors38]

43. if I may offer a possible answer...

The shaming strategy, which has long been promoted by controller/banners, is now augmented by an outright advocacy to knowingly take advantage of gun-related tragedies (a post was made here some months back by some non-DU commentator wherein he said that controllers SHOULD take advantage of these tragedies; maybe someone here can re-post). All this has the effect of somehow "excusing" the bloody shirt waving and "owning" the moral right to take advantage of tragedy. So if someone calls the hand on this political ploy, there is sufficient culture war resonance in DU to hide the remarks by someone who objects to the New & Improved Shaming Tactics.

Expect more of this in the future.

[Ghost in the Machine]

45. Thank you Eleanors38...

Don't they understand that we see this as a tragedy too? I hate to hear about little kids finding guns and hurting/killing themselves or someone else, but I place the blame on the individual gun owner who left it laying around loaded where a kid could get to it.

Peace,

Ghost

[Eleanors38]

47. Your welcome. Part of the Narrative© of gun control politics forbids recognizing that...

Fewer than 65 kids, aged fifteen years or under, were killed by gun accident in the last year of data collection; I mean; it has to be in the THOUSANDS! EVERY NIGHT, TOO.

[hack89]

11. Waving the bloody shirt again?

You are a ghoul reveling in other's tragedy to push an agenda.

[ileus]

12. Proper Holster on your person, it can't save life if not under your control.

A firearm can become a dangerous device if left unattended.

[krispos42]

15. If only there had been a ban on bayonet lugs...

Oh, wait, that comment is just as relevant as yours. I apologize to the Group.

[ileus]

42. Always keep personal safety devices on your person or locked up.

It's that simple.