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Related: About this forumDetention of person carrying gun illegal, Toledo man can sue city police
APPEALS COURT RULING
Detention of person carrying gun illegal
Toledo man can sue city police
BY JIM PROVANCE
BLADE COLUMBUS BUREAU CHIEF
COLUMBUS A Toledo man can sue a city police officer for detaining him illegally in 2010 for openly carrying a semiautomatic handgun in his neighborhood, a federal appeals court ruled on Wednesday.
The Fourth Amendment no doubt permitted [Officer David] Bright to approach [Shawn] Northrup and to ask him questions, Circuit Judge Jeffrey Sutton wrote. But that is not what he did. He relied on these facts to stop Northrup, disarm him, and handcuff him.
Ohio law permits the open carry of firearms , and thus permitted Northrup to do exactly what he was doing, Judge Sutton wrote. While the dispatcher and motorcyclist may not have known the details of Ohios open-carry firearm law, the police officer had no basis for such uncertainty."
Officer Bright had argued he had reasonable suspicion to detain Mr. Northrup, noting he was openly carrying a firearm and that he was responding to a 911 call. But the appeals court determined Mr. Northrup can proceed with the allegation that Officer Bright violated his Fourth Amendment protections against illegal search and seizure.
Not only has the state made open carry of a firearm legal, but it also does not require gun owners to produce or even carry their licenses for inquiring officers, Judge Sutton wrote.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2015/05/14/Detention-of-person-carrying-gun-illegal.html
How many of those who would otherwise call this a victory for civil liberties, will denounce the decision, "because gunz"?
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Detention of person carrying gun illegal, Toledo man can sue city police (Original Post)
beevul
May 2015
OP
Not that I'm the arbiter of right and wrong but is it too much to ask for cops to follow the law?
discntnt_irny_srcsm
May 2015
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discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)1. Not that I'm the arbiter of right and wrong but is it too much to ask for cops to follow the law?
Shamash
(597 posts)2. The answer to your last question is partially answered by:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141013490#post3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141013490#post18
http://www.democraticunderground.com/107825105
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172158719
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023434083
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172130667
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141013490#post18
http://www.democraticunderground.com/107825105
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172158719
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023434083
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172130667
sarisataka
(18,578 posts)3. When it is about gunz
Not much gets denounced
I don't agree with your premise that displaying a firearm is protected.
It is a threat which should be dealt with as such.
Harshly and with extreme prejudice.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=130691
It is a threat which should be dealt with as such.
Harshly and with extreme prejudice.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=130691
DonP
(6,185 posts)4. Ah, Shares United aka Loudly aka whatever he's using now, comes back like bad food
Again and again and leaves that bad, bitter taste in your mouth.
our friend is back, but laying low until s/he has established a veneer of legitimacy. I expect to see {more} posts here eventually.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)5. The headline written in the orginal article is atrocious.
I can't decide if it's just poor writing or meant to mislead headline skimmers.
It would be better if it read, "Court Rules: Illegal for police to detain person carrying gun"