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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 11:46 PM Jun 2015

x-post: Gun violence is the real problem with our country and it's time for our politicians

Gun violence is the real problem with our country and it's time for our politicians to finally do mo


And the other night in Washington, D.C., a 28-year old reporter named Charnice Milton was shot to death in the southeast part of that city while waiting for a bus after finishing her work for the day for Capital Community News.
When it is over, D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier, said this: “Unfortunately, wrong place, wrong time.”
It is as much a definition of a country of guns right now as anything else: The wrong place in America is a bus stop where a young woman with everything ahead of her is waiting for a bus to take her home from work. One more time, on one of the streets that the police of this country so often try to police in vain, the wrong place at the wrong time turned out to be anywhere.

How can a bus stop be the "wrong place" and after work be the "wrong time"? How is it we as a nation have become so complacent with gun violence that this death can be attributed to "wrong place, wrong time"?

I posted earlier about a bill requiring liability insurance on firearms and cited the cost of gun violence at $12 billion a year. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628959 I was wrong. According to this article in Business Insider the cost, including medical, extended care, psychological support, rehabilitation, investigation, incarceration and increased security is $227 billion. I was off a bit. That's half the military budget which is the largest single part of discretionary spending.

When politicians talk about cutting spending how about they look at the cost of gun violence and try to do something about that instead of cutting SNAP?

edit to add link to Business Insider: http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-violence-costs-america-more-than-229-billion-every-year-2015-4

DU Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628986

A couple of points --

First, this is what the OP excised --

A guy comes by on a dirt bike, a guy with a gun, aiming at somebody else, but Charnice Milton, a young woman with a master’s degree from Syracuse University, with big ideas about being a famous reporter in the nation’s capital, is the one who is hit, and then gone.

In other words this was a deliberate act of pre-meditated murder. The shooter intended to kill someone else; Ms. Milton was caught in that crime. In fact, the intended victim used Ms. Milton as a human shield.

Second, this is Washington DC where the local government harasses law-abiding citizens with nuisance laws. Obviously the gun control regime in place did nothing to prevent the killer from obtaining his weapon.

Third, in the vein of the already in-place nuisance laws, the OP wants liability insurance. This is yet another nuisance law. How this would have changed the outcome is anyone's guess. I'm not sure how liability insurance counts when committing a deliberate act of assassination even if the wrong person is killed.

Do people intent on murder even buy insurance to cover the incidentals of their actions? I strongly doubt it.

In other words, what we have here is yet another cynical exploitation of a tragedy involving deliberate criminal behavior to push yet more laws on people who are the target of criminals.
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x-post: Gun violence is the real problem with our country and it's time for our politicians (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 OP
Well said. GGJohn Jun 2015 #1
D.C. already has a solution to gun violence sarisataka Jun 2015 #2


(9,951 posts)
1. Well said.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 12:03 AM
Jun 2015

It's always blame the inanimate object, not the person wielding it,
A gun is nothing more than a paper weight until there is human interaction, it's not the fault of the firearm how it's used, it's up to the user how it's used.
But we all know that the appeal to emotion is all the controllers have left.


(19,662 posts)
2. D.C. already has a solution to gun violence
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 12:38 AM
Jun 2015

be a victim...

If you are armed, it escalates the situation. It is much better, in my opinion, to be scared, to be frightened, and even if you have to be, to be injured, but to walk away and survive. Because you can, you’ll heal, and you can replace whatever was taken away. But the trauma of that gunshot to you or to someone else is traumatic.

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