Nevada ends Clark County gun registering, gets castle doctrine, increases CCW reciprocity..

[virginia mountainman]

Bill does mostly good things and a questionable item, but over all a good bill! I keep hearing about gun control being in the ascendancy, but, it certainly don't seem to be the case..

Gun Control Laws as a whole, are far looser now than they was 4 years ago..

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2015/05/27/key-gun-bill-awaits-gov-sandovals-signature/28035591/

Where is that promised backlash? Seems like for every one step forward they make "somewhere" they go about 5 steps back everywhere else..

[upaloopa]

1. It isn't a level playing field you know that.

And it is mostly red states doing this.
If control had the money to buy politicians then you could make a comparison.
I think you need to get more real and admit you are being supported by the gun lobby and gun manufacturers. Control does not have that power.
I am not for gun grabbing I an just saying that is how I see it.

[virginia mountainman]

2. red states??

Like Illinois that recently got CCW??

LOL

What gun lobby and manufacturing money?? I get none..

Now what about Bloomberg's BILLIONS?!

[sarisataka]

3. I disagree

If it was ever about only money and "buying" politicians that isn't the case anymore. Bloomberg has more money than the entire gun industry and all lobbying groups combined.
The only thing that speaks louder than money is votes. Who is better at supplying active voters.

Also I see it as a perception issue
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=168079

[Shamash]

4. Getting real?

"Constitutional carry" (i.e. license not needed concealed carry) just went to the governors' desk in New Hampshire. A similar measure is expect to go to Maine's governor next week. No guarantee either governor will sign, but those aren't red states last I checked.

[DonP]

5. IIRC, the Colorado recalls, had gun control outspending the Pro 2nd people by 6 to 1?

It's less about the money being contributed and more about who can get voters out to the polls and involved in the issue.

"Bloomie" has been spending, by his own words and the public records, $50 million a year, to get the gun control he feels the American people need.

That's way more $$$ than the pro second amendment groups are putting into the debate.

But his organization is a small, top down "personality driven" group with no real grass roots support. The NRA and the state associations have millions of dues paying members that watch gun legislation like hawks and will show up at town hall meetings, in their representatives offices and at other events.

Tomorrow, here in the Chicago area, we have a gun control group that has decided to block access to a local gun store as a protest. They'll probably have a few dozen people show up for the event, with the media in tow. We'll probably have 75 or more pro-second amendment people show up from the Illinois State Rifle Assn.

The Everytown/Moms Demand Action/MAIG etc. will all disappear when another shiny piece of tinfoil distracts Bloomberg ... or he keels over, knocking down several of his armed bodyguards.

OTOH, if Wayne LaPierre is hit by a bus tomorrow morning the NRA will just keep cranking along.

[hack89]

6. Bloomberg not getting much for his money it would appear.

perhaps you can recruit another repuke authoritarian billionaire to help.

[upaloopa]

7. I am not a gun grabber

Just an observer

[hack89]

8. Right. nt

[upaloopa]

9. I made a resolution at the beginning of the year

no to take sides in this debate. I think I can understand both sides.

[hack89]

10. Then I apologize for my snarky reply. nt

[upaloopa]

11. No problem I use to be worse

[GGJohn]

13. And so far, you've been pretty fairly balanced and haven't taken sides.

Thanks for your honesty.

[krispos42]

12. People that don't own guns...

and who have no desire to do so are far less likely to get fired up by stricter gun-control laws. On the other hand, the people that ARE affected by stricter gun control laws DO get fired up.

And of course, when the backlash puts pro-gun politicians (usually regressive Republicans) our progressive agenda stalls on all levels.