Remember that fake gun store in NY that SUPGV opened up and took video of?

[beevul]

Remember that fake gun store in NY that SUPGV opened up and took video of?

Heres the op in our group that covers it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172163317

And heres the GD thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017253473

I suggest to those who are interested, to take 5 minutes and refresh your memory on it with this vid:

Finished with the Vid? Scroll down.

In an exclusive, the Shooter’s Log has learned that actors were used to portray customers in a fake gun shop “public service announcement” produced by States United Against Gun Violence earlier this year.

The New York City Mayor’s Office of Media has confirmed these facts in its response to a Freedom of Information Law (FOIL) request submitted in March.

“States United To Prevent Gun Violence opens a ‘gun store’ in NYC as a hidden camera social experiment to debunk safety myths,” the CeaseFire USA project claimed in its description of the video. The “social experiment,” like the “gun shop” itself, was pre-arranged, permits approved by the city indicate.

“Actors are interviewed on camera in a fake gun store,” the permits’ scene descriptions reveal.


It had previously been known that the “gun store proprietor” behind the counter was an actor—and one who has previously made a living glorifying fake “gun violence”—but up until now, speculation about if the “customers” were also plants has been just that.


http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/group-actors-nyc-gun-store-facade/

(links to the FOIL requests and responses at the above link)

Yet another gun control org caught red handed misrepresenting the truth. They even lied to msnbc.

[sarisataka]

1. *takes bow*

Since so much went into producing this ad and the background is not readily available, can we even be sure the "customers" are not actors or otherwise compensated for their appearance in this video?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172163317#post10

[friendly_iconoclast]

7. <golf clap> Well done, sir, well done...

[upaloopa]

2. Did anyone get shot and killed?

[beevul]

3. Maybe its just me...

But in my view, ignoring fact that they lied in multiple layers, and jumping right to "did anyone get shot and killed" doesn't really construe a neutral stance here.


Wasn't it you that said you were going to be neutral on the issue?

(it is possible I have you confused with someone else)

[friendly_iconoclast]

6. The only thing 'killed' was the remaining credibilty of those who lauded the original

IOW, nothing of value was lost...

[Nuclear Unicorn]

9. We were supposed to see the ad and feel so much remorse that we would cede control of our rights.

That was the sole purpose of the ad. Our guilt, their power. But the rationale for their power -- including the use of deadly force -- is built on lies and theatre.

Doesn't that upset you?

[Duckhunter935]

10. I doubt it

lies and theater are all the controllers have.

[Eleanors38]

13. Some in the GD link seem ready to wallow with the hogs where ethics are concerned.

[Shamash]

4. Thanks for posting that

With their "gun store" now closed, I guess they have some time on their hands. I'm sure that if they tried, they could find some sort of internet group where they could hang out and discuss gun control with people who share their level of honesty and integrity.

[Duckhunter935]

14. To many of them for the

Other gun related group

[Duckhunter935]

5. does not surprise me at all

lies are all they have to include Monsanto mom and Bloomberg's fake grassroots campaign.

[ileus]

8. One has to wonder what their real motivation is after stunts like this.

We all know the major players play on ignorance and emotion of the little people for support, but why are they so desperate to disarm the 99%ers???

[Shamash]

11. Not seeing any followups...curious

A quick sweep of all the news sites touting the NRA's "outrage" at the fake gun store it is "scared of" doesn't seem to show any followups on the fakery. I guess all the people who were on the ball for James O'Keefe's chicanery are on vacation this week.

[Eleanors38]

12. Did you expect MSM to follow up? I don't.

[Duckhunter935]

15. Or the other group