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davepc

(3,936 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 06:51 PM Jun 2015

#WeWillShootBack wants black people to arm themselves in self-defense

http://mashable.com/2015/06/20/wewillshootback/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link

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If you're afraid for your life, American citizens are told, call the police.

But Taurean Brown, the black man who popularized the hashtag #WeWillShootBack after the church massacre, doesn't think black people always have that option. Brown said police killings of unarmed minorities — including Walter Scott, Freddie Gray and Michael Brown in the past year — happen far too often for him to trust them.

And if the state can't protect black people, then Brown wants black people to protect themselves.

“We’re often the first ones that are called upon to be nonviolent," Brown, who lives in Durham, North Carolina, told Mashable. "I want to change the narrative to say that we have the right to defend ourselves, just like every human being.”

#WeWillShootBack has racked up more than 25,000 tweets since Wednesday's murders, but it's not the first time that phrase has been used.

We Will Shoot Back is the title of a recently published book by Akinyele Umoja, who heads Georgia State University's department of African-American studies. In it, Umoja chronicles the the armed resistance of black Mississippians in their struggle for freedom against intimidation and violence from their white counterparts.

But Brown said he isn't advocating for the random shooting of white people.

"What I’m saying is we have a right to organize ourselves, and defend our humanity," he explained. “We’re taking the power into our own hands, and not allowing another entity go do that for us.”


Communities have a right to form a militia for their own self defense. If the police cant or wont, then the people need to do it themselves.

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#WeWillShootBack wants black people to arm themselves in self-defense (Original Post) davepc Jun 2015 OP
Don't Disagree In Principle - Suspect That Such A Movement Won't End Well cantbeserious Jun 2015 #1
Well... UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2015 #7
Understood - Suspect That Such A Movement Could Lead To Outright Race Wars - Much More Bloodshed cantbeserious Jun 2015 #9
Self defense sarisataka Jun 2015 #2
Zimmerman SHOULD be in jail, Victims color should be irrelevant . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #6
I didn't watch the whole trial sarisataka Jun 2015 #8
I think it constitutes Terrorism . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #10
I agree sarisataka Jun 2015 #12
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if FL had the most incompetent prosecution team PatrickforO Jun 2015 #14
Prosecuters in the OJ case were right up there . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #15
I watched the entire trial gejohnston Jun 2015 #16
In a lot of states Gman Jun 2015 #3
It would be playing in to Charles Manson's sick fantasy of a Race War, we have too many orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #4
of course the problem is obvious.... unblock Jun 2015 #5
Posted without comment Shamash Jun 2015 #13
No objections here. N/T beevul Jun 2015 #11
They should... virginia mountainman Jun 2015 #17
It's always wise to arm yourself, you are the first line of defense of your life and family. ileus Jun 2015 #18
This non-violent stuff'll get you killed pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #19
Every person has a right to defend their live and their family. No one is obligated to be a victim. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #20
My two closest black friends are both armed. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #21
7. Well...
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:11 PM
Jun 2015

...the current one doesn't seem to be working well for Black folks if the Charleston massacres are any evidence. Maybe the #wewillshootback movement is what is needed.

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
2. Self defense
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 06:59 PM
Jun 2015

Is not predicated on skin color. If a person wishes to carry a firearm and is willing to accept the responsibility that comes with it then race should not matter.

Also the use of a firearm should be a last resort when all other reasonable options are ineffective or unavailable. Again skin color should be irrelevant.

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
8. I didn't watch the whole trial
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:12 PM
Jun 2015

But with what I do know I would have voted for manslaughter.

The victim's color may be relevant- such as a person saying he is there to kill black people before shooting. Some seem to find that statement ambiguous.

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
12. I agree
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:19 PM
Jun 2015

An act does not have to be tied to a specific group with a certain number of official members to ve terrorism

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
14. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if FL had the most incompetent prosecution team
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:30 PM
Jun 2015

they had try the Zimmerman case. Now, I'm not saying the FL authorities TRIED to lose at all...nope...not a bit!

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
16. I watched the entire trial
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 09:45 PM
Jun 2015

the prosecution team was a lot of things: unethical, with held exculpatory evidence (in violation of Florida law), tried to tack on third degree child abuse, which would ensure a conviction, dishonest, but I wouldn't call them incompetent. Judge Nelson did not allow it.
They were simply forced to try a case without evidence because of political pressure.
Fact of the matter is, the media was full of shit. Three eye witnesses saw Martin pounding Zimmerman's head in the sidewalk and forensics backed it up. In fact, the lead investigator said there was no evidence that conflicted with self defense.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
4. It would be playing in to Charles Manson's sick fantasy of a Race War, we have too many
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:05 PM
Jun 2015

racist ass-holes with badges to even think about that on a mass scale .

unblock

(52,196 posts)
5. of course the problem is obvious....
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:07 PM
Jun 2015

if certain people are so scared of black people having toy guns, skittles, wallets, single cigarettes, something playing rap music, an attitude, etc., that they kill them in "self-defense", just imagine how scared they'll be when they come across a black person carrying a real gun.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
18. It's always wise to arm yourself, you are the first line of defense of your life and family.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:08 AM
Jun 2015

A cell phone is a really shitty survival plan when lives are on the line.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
21. My two closest black friends are both armed.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jun 2015

I suspect other black friends and acquaintances are armed, as well (I live in the West, after all), but these are both people I know are armed: I go to the range with them now and then. #Even in liberal Portland, I think a lot of black people see a genuine need to have weapons available to them. When you see what happens all too regularly, it drives home that the days of lynch mobs weren't all that long ago.

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