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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:36 AM Jul 2015

Wonder if we'll ever see the likes of this?

I changed a few words in a quote from a controlling culture warrior, to wit
a high Southern Baptist mucky-muck named Russell Moore, "President of the SB Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026925456

Conservatives Gun Control Advocates Explain Why They Lost On Marriage - HuffPo


....In an interview, Moore told The Huffington Post that one of the movement's main mistakes in the gay marriage gun control fight was assuming traditionalists gun control
advocates would always have public opinion on their side. Social conservatives
These advocates didn't anticipate or prepare for the dramatic turnabout in national sentiment on this issue over the last 10 years, he said, assuming they'd always operate from a position of strength in the culture war. They believed that fundamentally, Americans shared their values...


Probably not, the die-hards will probably just quietly fade away like the Women's Christian
Temperance Union...





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Wonder if we'll ever see the likes of this? (Original Post) friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 OP
Completely honest observation, which will of course be dismissed by The Controllers....... pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #1
"Their sole concern would be on how to limit gun possession by criminals" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #3
They'll *claim* that's what they want, at least in front of a general audience friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #5
So basically, edgineered Jul 2015 #2
"I like the way you think!" The way I think might not be the way you *believe* I do. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #4
a funny thing about my statement edgineered Jul 2015 #6
I think I misunderstood you, you meant "out of control" as "out of power"? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #7
Hell, it's Wednesday - edgineered Jul 2015 #8

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
1. Completely honest observation, which will of course be dismissed by The Controllers.......
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:15 AM
Jul 2015

......who refuse to concede that their behavior reflects culture war. Of course "righteous crusaders" never do.

If The Controllers really cared about the victims of gun violence, they wouldn't care in the least what guns were designed to do -- only what they actually do when in the possession of criminals. Their sole concern would be on how to limit gun possession by criminals, and they wouldn't view the facts relating to gun violence as self-evident -- they'd roll up their sleeves and do their homework.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. "Their sole concern would be on how to limit gun possession by criminals"
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:42 AM
Jul 2015

And yet, whenever RKBA advocates reach out with suggestions for doing just that all we hear is deafening silence. I am convinced they don't want criminals disarmed, they want people disarmed and that gives away their game.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
5. They'll *claim* that's what they want, at least in front of a general audience
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:02 AM
Jul 2015

Here at DU, 'disarm everyone' sentiments are more openly expressed

For the most part, they're Prohibitionists- and more and more of them are open about it...

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
4. "I like the way you think!" The way I think might not be the way you *believe* I do.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:53 AM
Jul 2015

Thanks for illustrating the point of the OP for me...

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
6. a funny thing about my statement
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jul 2015

is the many different ways it can be interpreted. None the less I could have said that I thought the anti's were out of control, and coupled it with my interpretation of your op to illustrate that they (out of control anti's) would never be in control. I expect similar responses in other places around here; as a slow learner sometimes I merely learn to be more cautious. 'nuf said

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
8. Hell, it's Wednesday -
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jul 2015

by the time they figure out that they've lost on guns they'll be after pick-up trucks, bakeries that smell like bread, and mens shaving cream!

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