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Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:02 PM

Watch a Comedian Mow Down Every Stupid Gun Rights Argument Youíve Ever Heard

Watch a Comedian Mow Down Every Stupid Gun Rights Argument Youíve Ever Heard
ó July 2, 2015

Tragedy after tragedy in America and yet we still refuse to have any sort of meaningful conversation on the issue of gun control. This Australian comedian shreds any argument you have heard against gun control in one joke.

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Reply Watch a Comedian Mow Down Every Stupid Gun Rights Argument Youíve Ever Heard (Original post)
Judi Lynn Jul 2015 OP
hack89 Jul 2015 #1
DonP Jul 2015 #2
MyOwnPeace Jul 2015 #6
DonP Jul 2015 #7
MyOwnPeace Jul 2015 #25
discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #27
DonP Jul 2015 #67
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #30
Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #3
bobalew Jul 2015 #5
sarisataka Jul 2015 #9
oneshooter Jul 2015 #10
bobalew Jul 2015 #22
oneshooter Jul 2015 #38
Shamash Jul 2015 #42
Electric Monk Jul 2015 #12
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #20
oneshooter Jul 2015 #21
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #24
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #80
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #32
Electric Monk Jul 2015 #40
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #48
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #50
hack89 Jul 2015 #35
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #44
Shamash Jul 2015 #47
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #49
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #52
oneshooter Jul 2015 #60
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #62
oneshooter Jul 2015 #63
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #64
oneshooter Jul 2015 #65
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #66
Shamash Jul 2015 #51
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #53
Shamash Jul 2015 #58
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #59
DonP Jul 2015 #68
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #70
Shamash Jul 2015 #71
DonP Jul 2015 #85
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #99
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #46
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #54
sarisataka Jul 2015 #56
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #57
Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #13
oneshooter Jul 2015 #37
Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #39
oneshooter Jul 2015 #43
Judi Lynn Jul 2015 #15
sarisataka Jul 2015 #26
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #34
sarisataka Jul 2015 #45
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #55
clffrdjk Jul 2015 #72
BlueJazz Jul 2015 #4
Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #75
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #76
BlueJazz Jul 2015 #79
SunSeeker Jul 2015 #8
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #11
discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #14
Judi Lynn Jul 2015 #16
discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #18
Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #73
DonP Jul 2015 #74
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #77
elephant hunter Jul 2015 #17
gejohnston Jul 2015 #19
Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #78
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #82
gejohnston Jul 2015 #96
Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #101
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #103
gejohnston Jul 2015 #104
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #105
Judi Lynn Jul 2015 #110
Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #113
DonP Jul 2015 #114
Shamash Jul 2015 #23
rocktivity Jul 2015 #28
Judi Lynn Jul 2015 #31
Judi Lynn Jul 2015 #29
discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #33
Shamash Jul 2015 #36
pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #69
Judi Lynn Jul 2015 #111
Shamash Jul 2015 #112
friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #115
ileus Jul 2015 #41
deathrind Jul 2015 #61
Latrecia Bennett Jul 2015 #81
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #83
Latrecia Bennett Jul 2015 #84
sarisataka Jul 2015 #86
Latrecia Bennett Jul 2015 #89
friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #90
sarisataka Jul 2015 #91
Latrecia Bennett Jul 2015 #92
DonP Jul 2015 #94
Latrecia Bennett Jul 2015 #98
clffrdjk Jul 2015 #102
Latrecia Bennett Jul 2015 #106
DonP Jul 2015 #107
sarisataka Jul 2015 #108
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #97
gejohnston Jul 2015 #93
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #88
Marengo Jul 2015 #95
TeddyR Jul 2015 #100
Shamash Jul 2015 #87
pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #109

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:10 PM

1. Thank you. It is still funny the 20th time around. nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:20 PM

2. More like the 30th time I think

 

This is what passes for discussion among the gun control fans out there.

No relevant thoughts of their own, but lots of someone else video clips and cartoons to show how involved and committed they are.

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Response to DonP (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:40 PM

6. Well,

we can see your reasoned commitment and defense for guns based on your response..............

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:49 PM

7. And your "discourse" explains why gun control fails so dismally

 

Nothing to add, no logical arguments to make just repetitive snark and insults.

Keep up the good work.

You've gone 2 decades now with no new Federal regulation and thankfully, it doesn't look like you're going to get any, thanks to your support and serious "committment" to the cause.

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Response to DonP (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:32 PM

25. Oh?

And what did YOU add?

PS: It is "commitment" - not "committment" - so "snark" to you!

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:53 PM

27. Pull over



The spelling sheriff is here!
I expect the grammar police any minute.

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:40 PM

67. No matter how you spell it, you and gun control ain't got it.

 

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Response to hack89 (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:02 PM

30. At least 20

 

Still funny 👍

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:23 PM

3. Stand-ups and one-panel cartoons: Da brain trust of gun-control.

 

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:39 PM

5. Bull$h!t

I own guns, they are registered . I passed the background check, and welcomed it. I keep mine in a locked safe, until needed, or I want to go to the range, And they are transported in a metal lock box. I have Trigger locks. I reload Ammo, & That is locked up also.
I exemplify my right to keep & bear arms, AND I am in FAVOR of Gun Control. I have taken all the safety courses. I know how to service, disassemble & re-assemble ALL of my firearms. I don't waste ammo, and don't shoot unless absolutely necessary. I mix the loads in my guns with non-lethal & lethal loads, and KNOW which is which. I actually LIke the points this guy is making, and Really can't stand your KNEE-JERK response here. GET A CLUE.... We have a problem & need to SOLVE IT. Address it in an ADULT Fashion & Please, CUT The CRAP!

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Response to bobalew (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:00 PM

9. What are your

non-lethal loads? And how are they mixed?

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Response to bobalew (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:08 PM

10. And according to the gun grabbers on this site:

YOU are a gun humper
YOU are a "good guy", till you aren't.
YOU are responsible for the death of children by guns.
YOU have the blood of those killed by guns on your hands
YOU are a sniveling coward, hiding behind your guns.
YOU are the reason so many commit suicide.
YOU have a small penis and are compensating for it.
YOU are not a true Democrat
YOU are responsible for ALL the evil that happens in this world.

And the list goes on.

Welcome to our world


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Response to oneshooter (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:18 PM

22. Funny, I don't feel that victimized..

I don't see myself as part of that world. I live in the woods on 3 acres of redwoods. Guns are just tools for that environment.

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Response to bobalew (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:46 PM

38. It dosen't matter how you see it, it is how others see you, as a gun owner. n/t

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Response to bobalew (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:17 PM

12. Welcome to DU :) Ignore the assholes, of which we have more than a few.

 

They are why GCRA exists on DU, as well as having the GC & RKBA group which we are currently in.

/GCRA host

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:45 PM

20. The functional equivalent of yelling at the mirror

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:05 PM

21. As you can tell, quite a few come over from the other site.

They cry a lot, then leave.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:27 PM

24. "Get off my lawn!" (nt)

 

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #24)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:17 AM

80. Thank you!!!!

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12629233#post7

It needed to be said and you could post it in the safe haven. Soon to be blocked yourself I am sure.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:06 PM

32. Short of regular posters over in your group?

 

You would never allow that poster in as by your own rules he is a gun humper since he owns guns. He would have to be added to your very long blocked list.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:04 PM

40. Based on their post (reply #5) they'd be fine by me.

 

Please stop trying to define or control the GCRA Group. It is not yours, and it is not for you or people like you.

kthxbye

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #40)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:48 PM

48. Apparently

 

it's a place to fling poo at pro-RKBA persons who are not allowed to post in response. YMMV.

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #48)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:08 PM

50. And of course the host

 

Is powerless to moderate any of those insults directed at DU members that own firearms.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:24 PM

35. Your frustration is really starting to show

You were not always this rude. Perhaps you should find a new cause - one with a likelihood of success so you are left with more to do than running a moribund forum and insulting your opponents.

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #44)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:47 PM

47. You know, I'd give a polite and well-reasoned response to that thread

 

But the one time I actually tried that, I got blocked from GCRA...

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Response to Shamash (Reply #47)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:48 PM

49. Yeah,

 

funny how that works.

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Response to Shamash (Reply #47)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:11 PM

52. Yep

 

I was blocked for agreeing with another post that "some" controllers can be insulting.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #52)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:33 PM

60. And I wrote the post. n/t

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #60)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:45 PM

62. OMG, that is right!

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1262&pid=1458

This is the post from you I responded to....

49. The reason I asked was because some folks were talking about a policy for each firearm.
I carry a $1million cover policy on my home and land, $1 million on my business, have all my firearms that are not in use in steel fireproof safes installed in a concrete block room inside my home. I have both a alarm system and a fire suppression system.

However I live 30 miles from town on 40 acres and, depending who is on duty at the time, usually must give directions to LE if they are needed.

Despite all of this to many here I am a dirty, scum sucking future murderer with dreams of shooting small children and cats.

I find this disappointing to say the least, and somewhat discouraging.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1262&pid=1379


I agreed with you and was blocked, lol. How is that an SOP violation? In my opinion, another abuse of power

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #62)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:00 PM

63. Called it a"broad brush insult".

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #63)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:06 PM

64. you mean like calling us "assholes"?

 

12. Welcome to DU Ignore the assholes, of which we have more than a few.

They are why GCRA exists on DU, as well as having the GC & RKBA group which we are currently in.

/GCRA host


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=170562

So by his own rules, Krispos42 should have blocked him. The hypocrisy is astounding at times.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #64)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:14 PM

65. Check your mail. n/t

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #65)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:14 PM

66. Thanks

 

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #44)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:09 PM

51. Everyone should go read EM's whinging

 

It is almost elegant in its oblivious hypocrisy. It opens with him quoting himself as saying "assholes" are the reason we have the RKBA group, and then follows up where he quotes himself again, telling off someone for trying to define the GCRA group.

And then he says that it is sort of meta, but he is graciously allowing himself to leave it up for now.

It's like a psychotic break in text form. Go do a screen capture to remember it by.

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Response to Shamash (Reply #51)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:14 PM

53. That reply would be to me

 

Love how he comes over to this group where he is not a host but tries to control it.

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Response to Shamash (Reply #51)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:49 PM

58. Ooh, and now he's replying to himself in his meta post to reply to my comment

 

Hey EM:
"Ignore the assholes" - You're referring to multiple people in this thread

"They" (the assholes) "are why GCRA exists on DU"

"as well as having the GC & RKBA group which we are currently in" - The same "assholes" previously referenced

Therefore, the assholes are the reason for the RKBA group. Doesn't matter who you are calling that, you are calling people assholes (which Skinner has spanked you for in the past, if I recall correctly) and saying these assholes are the reason the RKBA group exists. And then you gripe that someone else tried to define the GCRA group.

Though in all fairness, I will admit to the possibility that you were merely engaging in self-loathing (lord knows I would if I were you), and the assholes in question were people like GCRA supporters or hosts, and those people are why GCRA exists. But it seems unlikely, as that sort of thing would certainly get you blocked over at GCRA. But as long as you're being meta, give it a try.

Level unlocked! The first (and thus far only) person to respond positively to EM (aside from himself) is the only other DU member currently blocked from RKBA.

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Response to Shamash (Reply #58)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:13 PM

59. Well to be honest there are very few posters over there

 

best way to get the post count up. I would not be surprised if he recced himself also. I love the fact that in a post that he himself as a host admits to being meta is allowed to stand 3-4
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krispos42's solution to the gun nuts calling me names and acting rude? Block me from GC&RKBA.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12629233

REASON FOR ALERT

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YOUR COMMENTS

Call out of a DU member and host. This is against the DU rules and this hosts behavior should not be allowed to stand.

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Someone else already alerted on this post before you alerted on it, and only the first alert was sent to a Jury. A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of the post on Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:46 PM, and voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT. Please note that even though your alert was not sent to a Jury, it has been forwarded to the Administrators who review all alerts.

Thank you.

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #44)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:48 PM

68. But, but, but he "just called us all A-Holes", what's so bad about that?

 

Trolling desperately and rudely for anyone to post in his ghost town.

And who is the first person to show up and commiserate with him about how evil we all are .... Mr. Bicycle wheel/can 'o beans hisself. Ta da!

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Response to DonP (Reply #68)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:12 AM

70. Busiest it's been in that group

 

Last edited Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:50 AM - Edit history (1)

In a very long time. A self described meta thread complaining how he was blocked for calling us assholes.

Funny that is his own rule they used against me in his group in blocking me. Something about a broad brush insult. He did it and paid the price.

Correction, EM did not block me but I was still blocked for a broad brush insult like he made here.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #70)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:59 AM

71. And more cartoons, too. Don't forget that!

 

I've always liked that EM is so worried about the offensiveness of his posts that his sig line is a disclaimer to juries.

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #44)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:55 AM

85. Maybe he won't run to Skinner whining this time?

 

Since he got his hand slapped last time.

But he's got another whining "meta" thread about how mean we all are and how we lie just to get him in trouble.

No great loss. And I can read better cartoons in the local paper anyway.

But between his Ghost Town of a safe haven and the enforcement of the ban on gun posts in GD his "Activist" world just got a whole lot smaller.

Funny, how that "90% of gun control supporters" never seems to translate into either voters or posters in the control group?

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Response to DonP (Reply #85)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:01 PM

99. His blocked list just got bigger

 

he can't take the heat of the truth in his safe haven group.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:45 PM

46. "Assholes"?

 

Kinda rude, don't you think?

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #46)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:16 PM

54. Apparently not

 

That is SOP for the insults allowed in the group he hosts. He never tries to reign in those insults directed at firearms owners.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:19 PM

56. Too bad,

I once considered you one of the reasonable ones.

But it shouldn't be a surprise
Skinner
24. You called the other person an asshole.
Juries get it right. Again
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628570#post24
Pretty much broad brushing the group is disruptive.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #56)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:39 PM

57. Calling members asshole

 

Was allowed to stand 6-0 this time. Sad that a host should be allowed to insult members like that. Oh well.

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Response to bobalew (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:18 PM

13. I will continue to post on this subject in the usual manner.

 

Further, I stand by my statement. Respectfully.

On edit:

Perhaps your post was meant for #10? I don't see much problem-solving with his/her outlook.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:44 PM

37. Not my "outlook", just prep for what will happen to him on DU. n/t

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #37)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:46 PM

39. On EDIT. Pardon me, I misread your post.

 

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #39)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:27 PM

43. Thats ok, sometimes I don't not writ too wel.

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Response to bobalew (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:24 PM

15. Excellent comments. Thank you. n/t

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Response to bobalew (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:51 PM

26. Out of curiosity

Who taught all of the safety courses?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:08 PM

34. "Gun safety " groups of course

 


My guess the responce will be crickets though.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #34)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:42 PM

45. I'm ever the optimist

That someone who wants "Address it in an ADULT Fashion" might talk about "non-lethal" rounds and safety training.

Then again maybe it is all Bull$h!t.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #45)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:16 PM

55. Wish you luck

 

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Response to bobalew (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:45 AM

72. Hey any update on those non lethal rounds?

 

I have serious questions about the legality of using such a thing.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:38 PM

4. Why don't you go back to Australia where you belong and the...

 

Oh...ah...forget that..

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:37 AM

75. This powerful message regarding WMD's and TheStupid belongs everywhere. So gun lovers want to shoot the messenger? Que surprise!

Comments like these only reinforce the message...good going, sir!

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #75)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:41 AM

76. Powerful message?

 

This guy is a joke.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #75)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:15 AM

79. I'm a Dual citizen. USA/Australia I was kidding. Didn't mean to offend...Mate.

 

As you know, the Australians got rid of the damn things.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:52 PM

8. Best riff on gun culture in America. nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:09 PM

11. Someone forget to tell Tunisia that getting rid of guns means you can't have massacres.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:23 PM

14. Judi, Judi, Judi

I've seen him before; he's funny.
If you'd like to discuss any of that and how some progress might be made, I'm all ears or maybe eyes ???

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:33 PM

16. This was the first time I've seen/heard him. Discovered it looking around the website.

I have no ideas about what it would take to turn sick people into well ones, or to undo lifetimes of misshaping personalities.

I think time itself is going to have to bring the cleansing this world needs, as the really sick ones die off. That kind of rabid paranoia has to eventually fade away. It's not really all that natural, is it? I think in time they will wear themselves out, as well as everyone who knows them, and we'll have a far brighter, livelier world.

Thanks.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:36 PM

18. You're welcome

I'm sorry I wasn't informative enough. I'm one of the RKBA folks. I'll understand if you'd rather not debate or discuss issues.

Have a nice day.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:24 AM

73. America runs on Dunk'ins and rabid paranoia...the NRA is the reliable tip of the spear of fear.

Loved the take down of the "home defense" propaganda.....

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #73)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:29 AM

74. They sure make gun control backers look stupid and ineffective

 

Funny how, with that "90%" popular support and far more money available (thanks to Bloomberg and other 1% friends) gun control still can't get jack shit done.

And your hero is an Australian comedy bit from a while back?

Maybe it's all a conspiracy to make gun control look stupid and ineffective?

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #73)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:43 AM

77. Rabid paranoia?

 

That would be the gun control proponents who are constantly afraid that legal gun owners are going to "snap" and start shooting people at random.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:34 PM

17. There are a couple of responses that are confusing.

Are you being sarcastic by providing the same pro gun arguments the video ridicules or are you being serious when you put forth those arguments and don't recognize that they have already been ridiculed? (scratching my head)

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:39 PM

19. it was funny the first time, but he doesn't mow anything down

In order to "mow something down" you have to make accurate and valid points, which is something this misogynist coke head doesn't do. In fact, many of his rant is demonstrably false.
Here is fairly decent shredding of him.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/06/daniel-zimmerman/bad-arguments-for-gun-control-a-response-to-australian-comedian-jim-jefferies/

I used to like RoF until I saw what a disgusting anti Mormon bigot Papantonio is.

BTW, now that Leland Yee pled guilty for racketeering, will the Brady Campaign take his name off its Gun Violence Prevention Honor Roll?
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-04-01/nra-does-victory-dance-over-the-woes-of-a-california-gun-foe

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:06 AM

78. Personal attacks on the comedian and others....just makes his many points! Thank you for the confirmation.

And keep on kicking....the more folks see this, the better for all.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #78)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:39 AM

82. Personal attacks?

 

Stating facts are personal attacks? No, referring to firearm owners as "gun-humpers", "ammosexuals" and "baby-killers" would be personal attacks. You fail again.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #78)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:06 PM

96. It is a well known fact

in the Commonwealth and UK. He is a misogynist and a Coke head. It is relevant because he is, well, a criminal by definition. He can also easily buy a gun, even in Australia, from the same people who sell him his nose candy. He is also contributing to the gang/gun violence in both countries.
Even if he wasn't, his rant is still demonstrably false on the facts.
Two years ago Papantonio made anti Mormon smears including conspiracy theories that sounded more like Glen Beck than anything rational.
BTW, is personal attacks a consistent view you hold or a double standard?

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #96)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:17 PM

101. Still firing away at the messenger? But too bad the message is clear....340 million guns is insane.

The part at the beginning about the hapless, responsible gun owner trying to open his secured firearm during a burglary was priceless...everyone should see it.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #101)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:38 PM

103. The issue is not the number of guns,

 

it is who has the guns. Take out criminals and the ones that are left are not causing the problems.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #101)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:45 PM

104. but his message is demonstrably false

and his video is using the wrong safe.
Again, demonstrably false. He doesn't even know the gun laws of his own country. I guess you are OK uneducated stoners making public policy.
Here is a safe I would use
http://www.wayfair.com/GunVault-MicroVault-Biometric-Lock-Gun-Safe-MV500-L100-K~GVT1025.html?refid=GX50899318740-GVT1025&device=c&ptid=75700908420&gclid=CjwKEAjw5disBRCA5r7OjsK_-UgSJAC27JPg-Mloy02tv4_ziKDuwiiEzHkeb664ihR-3bgo3TeX0BoC94Hw_wcB
Want to see how it works?

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #104)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:55 PM

105. Love that

 

Commercial. Not a big fan of Glock but that is a nice handgun safe.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #101)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:06 AM

110. Never had heard about the number of guns. Jesus H. Christ.

Really sad, isn't it?

Thanks, Fred Sanders.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #110)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:56 AM

113. Sad just begins to describe the number of guns in America.

Here is a trick I use when I get a comment response, as I sometimes do, from a gun lover.

Read any of the gun-lover's comments on this thread out loud.....hilarious, every time.

The comments sound even more insane when read out loud, but funny at the same time, every one.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #113)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:34 AM

114. Don't forget your other "trick" Freddie

 

Put everyone that disagrees with you on ignore. 46 so far?

That way you never ever have to deal with an opposing point of view.

Something to be proud of on a Democrat discussion board.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:21 PM

23. Sorry

 

I got one minute in before the first serious factual error, so I have my doubts as to whether the remaining fifteen are going to be useful. If there is "one joke" in that segment that "shreds any argument you have heard against gun control", would someone please post it?

But what I like about the very concept of such a joke is that if true, it would mean that an Australian college dropout cocaine user can with a single joke, come up with a more intelligent gun control argument than every American gun control supporter on DU has ever managed.

No comment on whether that would require him to have an IQ of more than 95...

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:55 PM

28. And now for something completely different

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #28)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:02 PM

31. Uh, oh! Amazing. Thank you! n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:59 PM

29. I never have looked for gun articles.

This link popped up at a site where I was looking for something more serious.

I didn't write the material, never heard of the comedian. Didn't know he is a coke-head. Don't care if he's a coke-head.

I will never change my views on guns, believe it's a matter of character, and a whole lifetime goes into creating or crippling character in a person.

I discovered from some of the responses on this thread that there are some people in this forum who seem to be crouched, waiting to get off a pot shot when they feel they've seen the "enemy."

I imagine the chance occurs regularly, as it might be so easy for an intelligent person to embarrass a humper. I've never read through the threads here, but no doubt it's likely the pro-humps wear themselves out.

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Is it always this windy in this forum? [/center]

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #29)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:07 PM

33. As my freshman Physics professor explained...

...when asked if this ever gets easier?
.................."...you get used to it."

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #29)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:41 PM

36. "I will never change my views on guns"

 

Judi, if you saw a bumper sticker reading "God said it, I believe it, that settles it", would your initial reaction on how that person thinks be a positive one or a negative one?

If someone told you they were strongly against something and also said they never looked for information on the subject, would that leave a good impression or a bad one?

Would you want either of these two people to be campaigning for laws that affect you? And would you speak up against these people when they tried to do so?

Just asking.

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Response to Shamash (Reply #36)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 11:50 PM

69. Tick, tock...tick, tock...tick, tock...tick, tock...tick, tock............ NT

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Response to Shamash (Reply #36)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:10 AM

111. It's a matter of character. I have no interest in gun details. I've known gun owners, unfortunately.

Living in the same world with them, seeing the impact they have on other people has told me all I need to know.

Why on earth would anyone be interested in learning more about guns? People looking for a safe way to kill others, or helpless, frantic animals. What's the attraction to that?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #111)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:08 AM

112. Well for one thing

 

Why on earth would anyone be interested in learning more about guns?

Well, it would keep you from looking exactly like Todd Akin did with his "If itís a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." You have an opinion. Good for you. Todd Akin had an opinion too. Your respective opinions are worth the exact same amount for the exact same reason.

Being completely against something that you are totally ignorant about makes you look like a doofus, doesn't do anything to help the cause you believe in, and in this case makes liberals in general look like clueless, knee-jerk ideologues. Good job! I can hear the fence-sitters charging their way towards the Democratic Party already!

Your ignorance is especially telling in your comment above. What exactly should this woman have done instead of "looking for a safe way to kill others"? Before you answer, remember that someone informed would know that a 1 ounce pepper spray would have been illegal for her to possess in New Jersey, as would an electric stun gun. And she already had a cell phone, restraining order and security cameras. Perhaps you could join the compassionate moderator of GCRA and say that she is partially to blame for her own murder because she should have picked a better boyfriend? I haven't seen you advocating for legalizing any other option that might have helped her, yet you seem fine with reducing her available choices. I guess when it comes to women, we need someone with your level of information to decide what choices a woman is allowed to make, and not someone with Todd Akin's level of information...

And as far as "helpless, frantic animals" go, that would seem to be closer to how they die in a slaughterhouse than what happens when a hunter shoots one. Did you think that cows go from some doe-eyed sweetie on a milk carton to slabs in a styrofoam tray without first being herded into a building reeking of blood and death and seeing the animal in front of them executed? Because the last animal I shot died in the wild without even knowing what hit them, and it was for my freezer, not for "sport". It did not spend its life in a feedlot, was never jabbed with antibiotics or growth hormones or sprayed with insecticides, and it actually had a chance to live a life rather than being born for the sole purpose of being executed. And it certainly didn't die the "helpless, frantic" death it would have had if it been chased down and killed by a natural predator.

And yet with comments like yours demonstrating pride in your ignorance, you somehow expect to be taken seriously?

"Ignorance is Strength" - One of the three Party slogans of the tyrannical ruling party in George Orwell's 1984 (and soon to be adopted by the Democratic Party for 2016 if Judi has her way)

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Response to Shamash (Reply #112)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:31 PM

115. Openly embracing willful ignorance is a notable feature of gun control circles

 

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:07 PM

41. Funny thing about him is he's too stupid to know guns don't have rights....people do.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:24 AM

81. Ban them

 

How will someone make it through their day without toting along a machine gun?Or toting a pistol with a sack of bullets and extra clips? Traversing the battlefield to Wal-Mart can be a daunting task.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #81)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:40 AM

83. Ban what?

 

Perhaps you missed a couple of USSC rulings title Heller v. DC and McDonald v Chicago? Legal firearms are not going anywhere anytime soon.

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #83)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:55 AM

84. Hillary

 

When Hillary is POTUS she will take care of all of this gun nonsense.You're not on a battlefield,get a grip for Christ's sake.Make sure and pack your bazooka to the mall to purchase some sneakers.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #84)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:59 AM

86. ???

What will Ms Clinton do to take care of the nonsense

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #86)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:21 PM

89. Battlefield Mall

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MALL_ARMED_MAN_DETAINED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-07-02-21-45-23

Nothing like strolling through the mall with a machine gun.Never know how many hardened ISIS fighters you will encounter at Sears.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #89)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:33 PM

90. Two obsevations: 1) That post doesn't answer the question, and 2) On the plus side...

 

...Your posts so far are at least average for the gun control advocacy posts we see here...

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #89)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:44 PM

91. Um ok

So he is going to be in a boatload of trouble with his CO. The UCMJ is stricter than civil law.
edit- if he was carrying his issued weapon, which would actually be an automatic weapon, he will likely face a Special Court-Martial; possibly a General Court-Martial. If it was he own weapon he might get by with Article 15 punishment.

But what do you expect Ms Clinton is going to do?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #91)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:57 PM

92. She will

 

Here you go honey.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #92)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:00 PM

94. Gee! Now here I thought it was the Congress that had that power

 

Maybe my civics books were wrong, but last time I checked, the executive branch didn't have the power to create laws.

I'm sure you'll show us, with a reputable cite, where the executive branch has the power to create a new law out of whole cloth any minute now, right?

Or are you just spewing "feelings" all over the place and pretending it's how things work?

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Response to DonP (Reply #94)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:23 PM

98. This enlightened me

 

He is very articulate and get his message across clearly to someone who isn't a gun savvy person. Helped me have a better understanding.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #98)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:23 PM

102. that was one hell of a switch

 

When are you buying your AR?

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Response to clffrdjk (Reply #102)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 06:03 PM

106. Haha

 

I'm just saying he makes some valid points.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #106)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:33 PM

107. Yes, because he actually knows what he's talking about

 

The more facts you actually know and the more you skip the bumper sticker level comments, the less attractive the gun control fantasy world is.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #98)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:35 PM

108. Good video

disagree with some of his points but the overall message is accurate.

In a gun fight you want the advantage and so called assault rifles may be a part of that advantage.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #92)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:16 PM

97. You may as well be campaigning for the GOP with videos like that.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #89)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 01:48 PM

93. where did it say machine gun?

They have been strictly regulated if not banned since the 1930s. Even before then, few people actually owned them which is why people like Dillinger stole them from police and national guard armories.

If the rifle was in fact a assault rifle, it was property of the US government and was not authorized to walk around mall with it. "Assault weapons" are whatever some politician wants it to be including target pistols that are mostly used in World Cup and Olympics.

You want to know the ironic thing about the NFA? This shotgun is more tightly regulated in the US than Canada. In Canada, a 12 year old can legally walk around in the woods with it and even buy ammo for it.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #84)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:09 PM

88. McDonald and Heller are established case law

 

and are not going to be overturned anytime soon. Your .gif is an apt description of the recent efforts to pass more gun control laws. Keep up the good work.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #84)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:03 PM

95. HRC intends to ban firearms if she is elected POTUS?

 

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Response to Marengo (Reply #95)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:38 PM

100. News to me

 

Pretty sure the party platform is the Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms, consistent with the Supreme Court's rulings on the same. And no, an executive order cannot abrogate a constitutional right.

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Response to Latrecia Bennett (Reply #81)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:00 PM

87. First, welcome to DU

 

Second, the RKBA side of things tends to work on the notion of rational, informed argument and liberal principles. There are places on DU where talking points, appeals to emotion, ethical inconsistency and ignorance of the subject matter are given a lot of weight, but this is not one of them and those sort of things tend to get...let's just say "intense criticism".

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in a post or in private. If you just want to vent and don't actually care about understanding what you are venting about, you'll be rightly ridiculed for that attitude here. It would make your ego feel much better to do it in some other group where that sort of attitude is considered a virtue.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 02:06 AM

109. Quite the "mow down"!

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