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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 03:15 PM Jul 2015

Do fewer guns lead to fewer suicides?

Short answer -- no

First, we suicides by guns are decreasing --

Okay, but what do gun ownership rate look like?

Thee ATF states the number of guns has gone up (quite significantly, it seems) even though the number of gun owning households has decreased --


The first thing this tells us (assuming people are being honest with pollsters at a time when gun owners are being vilified in the media and culture) is: The number of gun ownership is being concentrated among fewer households.

That would seem to imply that increasing the more guns a household owns lowers the suicide rate.

But what about the overall non-gun suicide rate?

For the most part suicide rates are declining regardless of the method. There are exceptions, such as, hangings among women seem to be on the uptick as a method even though suicide rates overall are in decline.

In other words, suicide rates are not tied to gun ownership.

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Do fewer guns lead to fewer suicides? (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 OP
I know all my spending is in Autoimmune. ileus Jul 2015 #1
A friend of mine who struggled with depression for years pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #2


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2. A friend of mine who struggled with depression for years
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 11:24 PM
Jul 2015

confided to me the reason he considered using a gun to end his life on a weekend. He assumed - likely correctly - that the report from the firearm would result in law enforcement finding his body instead of a family member. Even in his (then) hopeless state he was thinking about others. Fortunately, with a lot of patience, support and hard work he's doing better.

Can't help but wonder if this isn't part of the calculation made by others who take their lives with firearms.

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