Police revoking more gun permits

[SecularMotion]

FRANKFORT, Ky. – With a new legion of gun owners carrying concealed firearms in Kentucky, authorities are suspending or revoking gun permits at the highest number in years, according to the latest totals from state police.

Interest in Kentucky’s concealed-carry program reached a record peak in 2013, with authorities issuing more than 59,500 new licenses, a 117 percent increase over the previous year.

But with so many more gun owners authorized to carry, statutory actions against licenses are also on a sharp rise.

State police counted 1,339 instances when licenses were either suspended, revoked or subject to both in 2014. That’s a 125 percent increase over the previous year and the largest total since at least 2004.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/ky-legislature/2015/07/31/ky-authorities-suspending-revoking-gun-permits-highest-number-years/30944211/

[Nuclear Unicorn]

1. You mean they've stopped choking unarmed citizens long enough to do their jobs?

Shut the front door!

[blueridge3210]

2. *Gasp*

More permit issued, more are revoked. FILM AT 11!!!!!!!!!!

[AtheistCrusader]

3. So, you're saying the system is working well? Right on.

[Duckhunter935]

9. That's what I see!

Glad the OP is posting how the system is working well.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

4. In Kentucky...

...a bit over 6% of the population has a CC permit.

Over the life of the state's CC program 334,959 permits have been issued. The number of suspended and revoked permits totals 9,818. The overall rate is 2.9%. A permit revocation may result from something as simple as the holder moving out of state. I found no information on the number permit holders that moved out of state and received a permit from another state.

The statistics that are shown in the denial category include applications that are denied due to background checks, age, missing training certificate, other missing data, residency, or other reasons. The suspended category includes applications suspended due to Domestic Violence Orders issued and duplicate Social Security Numbers. The revoked category includes statistics pertaining to background checks, Lost/Stolen permits, non-residency, or other conditions.

http://www.kentuckystatepolice.org/ccdw/pdf/2014_CCDW_Annual_Report.pdf

[Duckhunter935]

6. Interesting, thanks

I doubt you will get a response from the OP though.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

7. As if I was expecting any

[Duckhunter935]

5. both increase percentages

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are the same? what is the big story, the system is working? We shall never know your thoughts though, right?

very easy to do this, I agree. I wish you would actually discuss your posts with us here.

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[bluedigger]

10. Why is it necessary to attack the messenger?

I thought about alerting, but it seemed to be overreacting, so I'll just ask why you need to be such a jerk about this? Nobody is under any obligation to add their opinion to a news story, and this piece is certainly appropriate to be posted to the group. I'm not surprised they haven't shown back up to be bullied. Are you?

[Duckhunter935]

11. it is not an attack because part of the group SOP is to "discuss"

Discuss gun politics, gun control laws, the Second Amendment, the use of firearms for self-defense, and the use of firearms to commit crime and violence.

That member is a host that blocks people in his group even if it is not an SOP violation. I think a host should be held to a higher level.

and by the way it is not just a few posts without any comment, it is multiple hundreds.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=21&sort=author
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=22&sort=author
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=23&sort=author
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=27&sort=author
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=28&sort=author

I do not like to alert, I use it rarely. I think more speech is best.

[bluedigger]

23. It's an attack whenit becomes an ad hominem.

You don't like the way the OP engages in this group or acts as a host in their own group. That's too bad, and your rising to the bait will probably never get them to stop doing it - it's what they want.

[AtheistCrusader]

19. Oh, he'll be back. Again and again. No worries.

It's like having our own Google news aggregator.

[Eleanors38]

20. "Overreacting." You think? As for "showing back up," this poster

rarely misses a day without posting many pieces of material which could be released on the internet's equivalent of auto-pilot. Bullying seems to be a de-valued term, even when "jerks" are referenced. Of late, should an unrelated post appear, someone fumes over it and can get a blue light hide. A cheaper one can be had using the expression &quot weapons)phobe." Of course "ammosexual," despite its phonetic and metaphoric kindred ship to "homosexual," is considered acceptable on DU.

BTW, what do you think the significance is of the OP's transferred data? He\she seems to have no view.

[bluedigger]

22. I think the OP was handled well, by some.

And others just can't handle the truth, apparently.

I happen to agree that more CC permits will result in more denials, suspensions, etc...

duckhunter can defend their jerkiness without your help, don't you think?

[Eleanors38]

24. Who knew the truth could be so boring?

Have a good day.

[Duckhunter935]

26. Hi!

[Eleanors38]

29. Hello, this Sunday a.m. from Austin. I took the cure for too much beer Saturday night:

Plate of chirizzo and eggs, potatoes, refried beans and several small bowls of sauces -- three kinds! With pickled jalapenos on the side. I'll be making like a Soyuz rocket by tonight.

[Duckhunter935]

30. Ouch

👍

[Duckhunter935]

25. Amazing what direct insults are allowed

And many are silent on them. Ammosexual is just one of many. For a long time it was delicate flower. I am amazed that pointing out how a host disrespects this group by posting nearly a thousand cut and paste threads with no comment is considered a personal attack. I would not be surprised if this post is alerted on.

[mopinko]

8. cook county sheriff has been

doing quite a bit of this. confiscating weapons from those convicted of domestic violence, especially.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

12. Would it surprise you if RKBA advocates supported this?

[mopinko]

15. only slightly.

i know they are not all crazy.

[Duckhunter935]

17. Why a vast majority of the 80+ million agree

With enforcing laws like this.

[gejohnston]

13. at least someone is enforcing current federal law

I was pissed the ATF didn't go to Sean Penn's house after he said he was going to get rid of his gun collection for a woman?
Penn pled guilty to DV when he was with Madonna.

[Duckhunter935]

14. Good

Enforce existing laws. A good thing as they have been convicted and are now classed as a prohibited person.

[mopinko]

16. and isnt that

what they always say?

[Duckhunter935]

18. Yes and most here are

Ridiculed for stating that as an NRA talking point.

[Eleanors38]

21. Better use of time & $$ than fighting losing battles over Chicago's unconstitutional laws.

[DonP]

27. Only problem with little Tommy Dart ... he doesn't like due process

He keeps trying to stop CC permits and FOID cards for anyone he thinks might be a problem, you know, like a Hispanic last name in Wicker Park or a home address in Englewood or Chatham.

If there's an arrest on a felony charge on the record or a conviction on gang related activity, great stop it or put it on hold.

But Tommy has already had almost 1/3 of his decisions overturned by the Illinois State Police that review applications and CLEO denials, who keep reminding him that he needs an actual reason to say no.

He was on the record as "very disappointed" that it was not a "May Issue" system. That would have been a nice cash cow for him.

[mopinko]

28. umm

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-07-11/opinion/ct-concealed-carry-permit-edit-0711-20140711_1_gun-permits-law-enforcement-public-safety

you put quite a slant on that.

[friendly_iconoclast]

31. You left out this rather important bit from the article at your link

Entirely by accident, I'm sure:

...But some of those who were turned down say they don't know why — and can't find out. One is Michael Thomas, of Chicago, a former Air Force reservist who was honorably discharged. "I have never been arrested or convicted for any offense, either misdemeanor or felony, in the state of Illinois or any other state," he said in a letter to the Illinois State Police. But neither the state police nor the board will tell him why he was refused.

So the National Rifle Association is suing the state on behalf of 194 rejected applicants. It argues that the opaque process denies them due process, because they are not informed of the basis for the decision or given the chance to challenge it.

We don't often say this, but the NRA has a point. We supported giving the state some discretion in handing out permits to carry loaded guns in public. Local law enforcement officers often know of risks (such as gang associations) posed by particular people who have not been convicted of crimes. Common sense argues for erring on the side of keeping firearms away from anyone who poses a discernible danger.

But there is no reason for so much secrecy. The law, in fact, says the board "must notify the applicant stating the grounds for denial," though it also says decisions and records are confidential. If the board thinks it is legally forbidden to divulge its reasons, then the legislature ought to revise the law to make the process more transparent and to let applicants contest the evidence.

I was not surprised to find out that Michael Thomas is of African American descent...

[friendly_iconoclast]

32. Also from the Chicago Trib: "Flood of lawsuits over concealed carry denials"

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-07-04/news/ct-concealed-carry-rejection-20140706_1_michael-thomas-application-illinois-state-police#sthash.5Atcp2Ix.dpuf