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Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:06 AM

ATF Denies Being an ‘Agency’ to Avoid FOIA Compliance Requirements

ATF Denies Being an ‘Agency’ to Avoid FOIA Compliance Requirements

A legal response filed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives claims a Freedom of Information Act-related complaint improperly targets them. “The ATF is not an ‘agency’ within the meaning of the F.O.I.A., 5 U.S.C. § 552 (f) (1), and is, therefore, not a proper party defendant,” the response claims . . .

The complaint, filed June 23 in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, seeks an order to compel the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to comply with a Freedom of Information Act request filed in March and ignored in violation of federal law. The FOIA sought copies of policies and rulings relied on in enforcement and determination actions.

The complaint was filed by Tucson attorney David T. Hardy. Plaintiffs include this correspondent, firearms designer and president of Historic Arms, LLC, Len Savage, and the FFL Defense Research Center. The information, as noted in the announcement of the lawsuit, is being sought to ensure consistency in rulings, policies and compliance enforcement.

“Ok, I’ll bite,” Savage responded upon learning of the government’s defense argument. “If, as they claim, they are not an agency under Title 5 FOIA, then why do they have a disclosure division? How is an FFL supposed to comply with ATF policy that is kept secret? Perhaps that’s the point, to not be able to comply?”

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/08/david-codrea/atf-denies-being-an-agency-to-avoid-foia-compliance-requirements/


What is it about Controllers and putting people on ignore, quitting discussions they can't rebut and just plain ol' not discussing things? It's like they can't emotionally cope with other people being self-determining.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:03 AM

1. re: "...ATF is not an ‘agency’ within the meaning of the F.O.I.A."

Is Dick Cheney running ATF???

Or is some chicken-shit Milo and Yossarian team?

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Sun Aug 16, 2015, 05:30 PM

2. Subterfuge, worthy of the Sovereignty Commissions.

 

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