3 Myths Gun Lobbyists Want The US Population To Believe As Fact

[SecularMotion]

June is Gun Violence Awareness Month, an important time to highlight a growing problem we have in this country. Some consider gun violence to be a public health epidemic, and the stats give a pretty good indication why.

But, “gun nuts” and lobbyists are trying to dissuade public opinion on the issue of guns. They hide behind the Second Amendment like it’s a sacred cow, carrying loaded assault rifles in grocery stores to intimidate the public’s mind on the issue.

Yet, even responsible gun owners and a majority of NRA members believe in a comprehensive expansion of some gun regulation.

It’s important this month to realize many of the claims gun lobbyists throw out there are pure bunk. Here are three myths gun zealots often toss around, and why they’re absolute rubbish.

http://elitedaily.com/news/politics/3-myths-gun-lobbyists-want-us-population-believe-fact/1058159/

[Duckhunter935]

1. must be getting hard to do the Google cut and past

June?

You do know we are in September now, right?

[SecularMotion]

4. Thanks for the comment.

[Duckhunter935]

6. care to discuss your cut and paste

Google dump of the day?

[SecularMotion]

8. I only discuss "center-to-left viewpoints" as per the terms of service.

If I were to discuss your center-to-right viewpoints on the gun issue, it would not promote a positive atmosphere.

"It is the responsibility of all DU members to participate in a manner that promotes a positive atmosphere and encourages good discussions among a diverse community of people holding a broad range of center-to-left viewpoints."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

[Duckhunter935]

10. Funny

Those are my viewpoints too, just more center and I guess socialist as I tend to support Bernie.

[beevul]

11. You have your 'center to left' confused with 'anti-gun'.

Last edited Sun Sep 6, 2015, 07:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Lets see:

You went to a meeting of a group known to work against Democrats, funded by a known anti-gun megalomaniac racist 1 percenter.

On edit: it wasn't you, it was one of the folks you agree with.

You cite as authoritative one of the most anti-gun orgs that exists, the VPC.

On edit: it wasn't you, it was one of the folks you agree with.

You post an article which itself has far more lies, fallacies, and equivocation than the things it claims are myths.


And now you're trying to find cover behind "center to left"?

I think not.

[Duckhunter935]

18. Funny how he refuses to follow this group SOP

and tries to fall back on that lame argument. Back to ATA sooner than later I assume.

[hack89]

13. So you cannot articulate a center-to-left argument to support your OP?

all you are intellectually capable of is cutting and pasting some one else's arguments?

No wonder gun control is a smoking wreck in America. No wonder a moron like Ted Nugent is kicking your ass on regular basis.

[ileus]

15. They're looking forward to 2016...

[TeddyR]

2. So I read the story

And it said that when there were fewer guns in Australia there were fewer suicides by guns. Notably, it didn't say there were fewer suicides, which leads me to believe there were more suicides by other means. In other words, misleading.

[beevul]

3. It is hard to believe an article that starts out with a bald faced lie, and proceeds...

It is hard to believe an article that starts out with a bald faced lie, and proceeds from there with dishonest equivocation. I thought you were for being reasonable, but citing this garbage as if its factual, shows quite plainly that you aren't.

By law, licensed gun sellers must submit customer information through a federal background check. This law is circumvented, however, by the “gun show loophole,” which allows private sellers at gun shows to sell their weaponry without being subject to such a check.

Lie number one front and center. The law is NOT circumvented, since it was never intended to apply to private sales.

Internet sales, too, don’t have to go through those legal channels.

Equivocal deliberately ambiguous scaremongering.

A buyback program in Australia resulted in a fifth of the guns in the country to be out of the hands of the populace.

"Buyback".

It is good to know that 'confiscation' is included under your definition of 'buyback'.

So reasonable.

Your 'piece' is nothing more than dishonest equivocal agenda driven propaganda.

[Duckhunter935]

7. some serious lies there

Any firearms sold by a dealer at a gun show must go through the NICS background check. All private sales within the state are the same, either at a gun show or not. It is up to state law. Most booths are run by dealers at the shows.

another lie
Internet sales do not require a background check, news to me since all of my weapons purchased over the inter had to by federal law be shipped to an FFL and a background check completed prior to me getting them.

I would love to discuss those facts with the OP but he fails to respond. Wonder why?

[SecularMotion]

9. See post #8

[beevul]

16. Veni vidi vici. N/T

[Duckhunter935]

19. See the group SOP

Discuss gun politics, gun control laws, the Second Amendment, the use of firearms for self-defense, and the use of firearms to commit crime and violence.

[SecularMotion]

5. 3 Myths

Myth #1: Background checks don’t work.

Myth #2: Gun control can’t prevent suicides.

Myth #3: More guns means we’re more safe.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

12. "They hide behind the Second Amendment like it’s a sacred cow..."

Let's try this some other ways --

"Those who had books censored hide behind the First Amendment like it's a sacred cow..."

"Those who were tortured into confessions hide behind the Fifth Amendment like it's a sacred cow..."

"Civil rights activists hide behind the Fourteenth Amendment like it's a sacred cow..."

"Journalists hide behind the First Amendment like it's a sacred cow..."

"Medical marijuana dispensaries hide behind the Tenth Amendment like it's a sacred cow..."

"Women suffragists hide behind the Nineteenth Amendment like its a sacred cow..."

'Hindus hide behind the First Amendment..."

Well, you get the idea.

Hopefully, you also get the idea of just how stupid the commentary in the OP sounds.

[beevul]

17. Criminals hiding behind the 4th and 5th.

Surely our interlocutor objects to those as well.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

25. Heaven knows the Controllers often deride "freedumb"

[ileus]

14. Gun violence awareness month...wonder who declared that???

[Duckhunter935]

21. smells like Astroturf

http://www.gunviolenceawarenessmonth.org/

They do not seem to want to advertise who came up with it. But I suspect NY=Bloomberg

[Duckhunter935]

20. Which event do you want to highlight?

here is this months calendar.
http://www.gunviolenceawarenessmonth.org/events/?view=calendar&month=September-2015

Do please tell which one, there are so many to choose from

[oneshooter]

22. Trashed, as is all of his/hers/its posts.

best place for it.

[SecularMotion]

23. Thanks for the kick

[Duckhunter935]

24. yep

just shows how idiotic your posts are.

Let me put this here as I am sure "someone" might get mad and alert. That person tends to do that to me, whoever they are.

Note to jurors, I did not say the poster was idiotic, I am sure he is not.

[SecularMotion]

26. Thanks again

[Duckhunter935]

27. No problem

I'm not the one that should be ashamed with the content of my posts. I look at it like this, the more people see those posts the better. Proves how bad your posting is. Did you select your September event yet? Go to #20 for the link, there are many to choose from

[SecularMotion]

28. Thanks.

There's no shame in bringing attention to efforts to reduce gun violence.

The shame is on those who oppose all efforts.

[Duckhunter935]

29. The first part is true

I hope you do not mean me on the second part as that would be an outright lie and I would expect an apology from you. Let's see any link you can come up with saying that by any poster here in the group or DU.

[friendly_iconoclast]

30. "Let's see any link you can come up with (a DUer) saying that..." They cannot, as there are none

And they knew that perfectly well when they wrote it.

[Duckhunter935]

31. Yes he does know he posted an outright lie

notice how he has just disappeared from this thread. What the hell, he does not think he will be challenged, a host posting a lie?

Bet I get alerted on this post by some person. I have "no idea" who that person is but he or she loves to alert on me.