Toledo man with concealed carry permit shoots armed robbery suspect

[virginia mountainman]

Here lately a lot of things that "never ever happen" seem to keep happening...

http://www.13abc.com/home/headlines/Toledo-man-with-concealed-carry-permit-shoots-armed-robbery-suspect-334869301.html

Tye Willis supports his neighbor’s use of force. Willis says he has been jumped and robbed himself. He says he is in the process of getting his own CCW permit.

"The guy just came out of the blue thinking he can get away with robbing a guy not knowing he is well-protected and licensed to have a gun with him,” says Willis. “So I think he did the right thing."

Never happens, huh?!

[Duckhunter935]

1. shhh, never does

[SecularMotion]

2. Why are these DGU reports so sketchy?

I wouldn't bank on this one. It's still under investigation.

[gejohnston]

3. Ohio is the only state where one has to prove self defense

as an affirmative defense to a crime. Every other state and territory, the State would have to disprove self defense BARD. Ohio is also one of the few duty to retreat states.
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/states-that-have-stand-your-ground-laws.html

the states not in either list are SYG by common law such as California, Washington, Oregon, Washington etc. that predate Florida being the first to pass SYG as a statute. George simply put into statute what was already common law.

[SecularMotion]

4. I think you replied to the wrong post.

[gejohnston]

5. no, I replied to the correct post

you asked why the report seemed sketchy and why it was still under investigation. I answered the second part of the question. The answer the first part is either confirmation bias or responsible journalism since the investigation just started. In this case, I suspect both.

[SecularMotion]

6. I didn't ask why it was under investigation.

My question was why are DGU reports so scant on details. Granted that this one at least provided more info than usual.

These reports normally unravel when further details come out. The fact that there were 2 prior break-ins at the residence raises some flags.

[gejohnston]

7. because news reports never do

and no, they don't unravel. The cops don't give details of anything under investigation because facts are not known and it impedes the investigation.
When ideologues start speculating and creating narratives, those always unravel when the facts come out.

Here, the media was at least responsible enough to only report what they are given.
How is that a red flag? Is it a high crime area? If so, it may not be unusual in that area. Are there rumors that the occupant has a big old coin collection that is worth stealing? That might come out in the investigation, and really isn't relevant. The only thing legally relevant is what happened in that few seconds.

[gejohnston]

8. if you want to see sketchy,

The dead CCW holder is black. I don't know the race of the cop, and I don't know if it is relevant.

http://concealednation.org/2015/11/concealed-carrier-taken-out-by-unmarked-police-officer-negligence-or-worse/