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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:24 PM Nov 2015

A great OP made me think

Last edited Mon Nov 30, 2015, 02:49 PM - Edit history (1)

If you believe that firearms were designed to kill, to simply and efficiently end life, how could you ever possibly believe that they could be used to save a life?
And if they were used to save a life, how could they ever do so without killing an assailant?


Read my sigline; do you want to think outside the box? Or would you be happier denying there's a box?

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A great OP made me think (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 OP
Self-defense is about causing physical harm to your assailant krispos42 Nov 2015 #1
Among the deterrence qualities of a firearm... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #2
All my self defense firearms were designed to save/protect life. ileus Nov 2015 #3
As are most/all SD weapons discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #4

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
1. Self-defense is about causing physical harm to your assailant
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:48 PM
Nov 2015

Against a serious aggressor, it will take serious and possibly fatal harm to halt the attack. Whether it's a face full of pepper spray, a stun gun, a baton, a machete, or a gun, the idea is to make your assailant feel crippling pain or to cause enough damage to cripple or kill them.

Perhaps one day we will have rapid-firing, multi-shot weapons that cause unconsciousness without causing physical damage, such as a phaser set on "heavy stun" in Star Trek. I can even see a future where such phasers are commonplace and widely owned, but, unlike perhaps military versions, there is no "kill" setting. Law enforcement and the general public could be limited to stun-only phasers (although according to the ST:TNG technical manual, heavy stun lasts for about an hour), and the military could have the ones that turn you into a whiff of ozone and hydrogen.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
2. Among the deterrence qualities of a firearm...
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:02 AM
Nov 2015

...the possible deadly outcome is at the top for many folks so, when faced with a victim armed with a gun, more would choose to retreat simply because not retreating can get you dead. At worst stun only gets you knocked out and maybe arrested.

You can wake up from knocked out but not from dead.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
4. As are most/all SD weapons
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 02:59 PM
Nov 2015

However, you can see why their odd perspective (held by some control folks) would fit well with denying the idea of regular frequent DGUs.

A misunderstanding of the nature of most any topic can lead to seriously flawed conclusions.

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